11 Reasons the Authority of Christianity Is Centered on St. Peter and Rome

stpeterslist ^ | December 19, 2012

[Cronos]

Metmom: It's disingenuous of you to portray all non-Catholics who follow Scripture in his category.

Tsk, tsk, metmom --> remember the Religion Forum rules "Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal." --> Do not accuse another Freeper

[Cronos]

Metmom: to portray all .. who follow Scripture in his category.

Tsk, tsk, metmom do go back and read before making false accusations -- in post 409 I said it’s just that many of those born-again groups are, well, Jesse Duplantis - it’s a bit difficult to hold with him, right? --> I didn't say "all" by any means. I have a lot of respect for the Assemblies of God crowd, and for the Rev. Graham, but the facts are that many who call themselves "born-again" are Jesse D or Benny Hinn followers or Oneness Pentecostals -- the latter who openly deny the Trinity while the former, well...

So stop falsely accusing me of saying "all" -- and remember that the next time your post makes a blanket accusation

[Cronos]

Mormonism arose from the 1800s re-re-re-reformation mileu -- the same 1800s group that spawned the Christian Scientists, Seventh Day Adventists, Jehovah's Witnesses etc

This is due to the continuous reformatting -- which even Luther and Calvin attempted to stop

The problem is that each new bunch of Reformatters reformats the old.

1. You have the first generation namely Lutheran sticking close to orthodoxy with the Lutherans holding to the True Presence in the Eucharist, to Baptismal regeneration etc.
2. Generation 2: Then you have the Calvin-Zwingli crowd rejecting these two as well as other aspects of orthodoxy
3. Generation 3: Knox and the Anglican compromise
4. Generation 4: The Unitarians like Michael Servetus who went from being Catholic to Lutheran to Reformed to denying the Trinity.
5. Generation 5: the Baptists who now rejected infant baptism (quite unlike their namesakes the Anabaptists (now called Mennonites)) and said that there was a great Apostasy in the first centuries of Christendom (Gen 1-3 took later centuries as the dates of their "Great Apostasy")
6. Generation 6: the Restorationists at the Great Awakening, like
   
   • The Millerites, to become the Seventh DayAdventists -- with Ellen G White saying that Jesus was the same as the Archangel Michael and that Satan woudl take the sins of the world at the end of time and other beauties. They came up with their own version of the Bible
   • The Unitarians and Universalists -- reborn and reinvigorated by this reformatting, they tossed out the Trinity and eventually they end up as they are today where they believe in nothing
   • Jehovah's Witnesses: they tossed out the Trinity too and came up with their own version of the Bible
   • The Mormons: they took the Trinity and made it three gods. They too came up with their own version of the Bible
7. Generation 7: the Orthodo Presbyterian C, the FourSquare Ahoy! Pentecostalists, the Raelians, the Branch Davidians, the Creflo-Dollar crowd, the Jesse Dupantis (I went to visit Jesus in heaven and comforted Him) etc -- one step further beyond generation 6
8. Generation 8: ... any one of the thousands of new sects formed since 1990

So the further reformatting led to the Mormon hoax

[Cronos]

editor: The only part of the entire Bible that was originally written in any language but YHVH’s Hebrew is Daniel ch 4, which was written by Nebuchadnezar, who had no other language but that of Aram.

Nice, now explain that to dartuser whose post says that Matthew was not ONLY in Hebrew

Or are you calling his and every other Christian's beliefs as pagan?

[Cronos]

Btw, I refer to the Bible, if r reference is from the Koran, thats r problem

[HarleyD]

Calvin presents human nature as very nearly corrupt, so much so that he saw very few passing through the narrow gate.

I believe our Lord stated the very same thing.

[Iscool]

you don't seem to understand the fact that they did not persevere means they they were not the chosen interpretations...

I certainly do understand and not only did they persevere, they have become the Majority Texts; well over 5000 in number compared to a miniscule number of about 250 that the Catholic religion can lay claim to...I understand perfectly well...

[Elsie]

More if the unfunny flippancy I referenced earlier.

So easily trumped by smug superiority.

[Elsie]

No, because I do not believe and have no reason to believe metmon's version of events.

Then you are shown to be a FOOL who did NOT read the FACTS from WIKI.

No WONDER you're a Catholic!

[Elsie]

The church is protected, by Christ Himself, against error in matters of faith and morals....

But 'christ' appears POWERLESS to keep the 'church' from electing bad leaders.

Got it.

[Elsie]

Mary’s still dead.

[Elsie]

I see...

a TRUE Catholic would not do those things.

I got it.

[Elsie]

James: No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.” - Acts 15:7-11

Rome: No! We believe it is through the sacrement of baptism that we are saved!

[Elsie]

Beware of flippancy; or Natural LAw will be on you like... like....

[Elsie]

I had wondered what happened to you...

[Elsie]

Calvin presents human nature as very nearly corrupt, so much so that he saw very few passing through the narrow gate.

Where did he EVER get a crazy idea like that?

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Jeremiah 17:9
“The heart is deceitful above all things, And desperately wicked; Who can know it?

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Oh... never mind.

[Elsie]

Which post contains a dispute from a prior thread?

Not the actual dispute; but reference to the FACT that evidence was given, showing NL's error and that he has REFUSED to admit it or to apologize for so rashly rushing to judgement.

[Elsie]

You may now kiss my ring.

[Elsie]

He is present at each Eucharist

ONLY in the sense of "where two or three are gathered in My name..."