Posted on 09/09/2012 6:23:10 AM PDT by marshmallow
And as for the Moslems, they have a wrong and misguided understanding of God, but to the extent their view of God is exactly the same as Catholics, then obviously it is true, or else you are illogically saying that the Catholic Faith is not true. Is God beneficent and merciful, as the Moslems say? Yes, despite their wrong views about God in other respects.
Muslims don’t worship the Holy Trinity. They vehemently deny It. They worship another, false god. They also deny Christ is the Son of God, let alone the Second Person in the Trinity.
Do you worship the muslim god? I don’t.
As far as Second Vatican Council; I don’t reject it outright. I reject some it, that which contradicts Faith and Tradition.
P.S. If muslims don’t recognize the True God and deny Him, how can they worship Him?
The Jews don’t recognize the Trinity, so does that mean that the Old Testament God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is not the same God as the one we worship? The benighted Moslems, like the Jews, lack the fullness of understanding of the nature of God revealed to us in Jesus Christ.
“I reject some it, that which contradicts Faith and Tradition.”
Please cite what specifically in the Vatican II documents contradicts Faith and Tradition.
Where are you going with this? Are you saying all religions worship the True God? If not, which specific ones do; and how do they do it if they don’t recognize the Son of God? The New Testament says it can’t be done.
I never said all religions worship the True God. My point is simple. Jews and Moslems purport to worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, which is the same God we worship. Their understanding of God, however, is defective since it does not acknowledge the fullness of revelation that we have received. This is not a difficult concept.
“Purport”. That’s a good representative word and I’m glad you used it.
And that is one reason I reject Lumen Gentium. Lumen doesn’t use the word, “purport”. Lumen states a supposed “fact”, that in fact is false.
You reject Lumen Gentium, a magisterial document adopted by an Ecumenical Council and approved by a Pope? I’m sorry, a Catholic cannot simply “reject” teachings of the Magisterium like that. You are apparently a Cafeteria Catholic at best.
I am a Roman Catholic. Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi purport to be Catholic. I see you somewhere between the above. It’s a big tent, right?
No, I fully accept and believe all that the Church teaches. You’re the Cafeteria Catholic between the despicable and duplicitous Biden and Pelosi, picking and choosing what you want to believe.
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