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When does a dinner invitation become a scandal? — UPDATED (Obama has accepted)
The Deacon's Bench ^
| August 7, 2012
| Deacon Greg Kandra
Posted on 08/08/2012 2:26:48 PM PDT by NYer
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posted on
08/08/2012 2:26:59 PM PDT
by
NYer
To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...
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posted on
08/08/2012 2:29:15 PM PDT
by
NYer
(Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
To: NYer
I must say, as much as I favor civility, I could not invite that Marxist Maggot to such a dinner. You may call me intolerant, call me uncharitable, or even call me unchristian - as far as I'm concerned he is the veritable spawn of Satan, and is inflicting critical damage upon my Church, not to mention my Nation. I pray daily for our ultimate deliverance from the depradations of this consummate malefactor.
Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!
Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)
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posted on
08/08/2012 2:43:26 PM PDT
by
ConorMacNessa
(HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
To: ConorMacNessa
I understand perfectly. That is why I posted the option of signing a petition to disinvite him in my #2 comment.
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posted on
08/08/2012 3:03:32 PM PDT
by
NYer
(Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
To: ConorMacNessa; NYer; don-o
In multiple FR postings of this same event, too many FReepers are using reflexive rash judgment rather than common sense.
- Dolan already correctly rejected Obama's HHS regs as "straitjacketing," "handcuffing," and "strangling" the Catholic Church.
- Dolan already publically repudiated Obama's so-called accommodations and pledges of "freedom of conscience" as falsehoods.
- Dolan is suing the Obama administration in Federal court, 'for Christ's sake'
Here are the possibilites. Please think about which is most likely:
(1) Dolan's brain has inexplicably turned to bathwater, he has forgotten everything he learned in past 45 months, and is toddling up to smooch the man who lied to him in public.
(2) Cardinal Dolan has, without cause or motivation, morphed into baby-sacrificing Orc.
Or:
(3) Dolan knows Obama is too much a narcissist to turn down a ("historic!") dinner invitation, and is luring him in to the most media-heavy charity event in the Media Capital of the World --- TWO WEEKS before Election Day---- to expose him as the most deadly threat to the Church in U.S. history.
Who's the pawn on this chess board? And who's the bishop?
Think, think...
If you still have serious misgivings, please take them straight to the padre:
archbishop.dolan@archny.org
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posted on
08/08/2012 3:07:28 PM PDT
by
Mrs. Don-o
("Do not be rash with your mouth." - Ecclesiastes 5:2)
To: NYer
I missed that. Thanks vey much.
Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!
Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)
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posted on
08/08/2012 3:12:03 PM PDT
by
ConorMacNessa
(HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
To: Mrs. Don-o
I hope you're right, Mrs. D!
Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!
Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)
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posted on
08/08/2012 3:13:59 PM PDT
by
ConorMacNessa
(HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
To: Mrs. Don-o
Dolan’s predessors didn’t invite nominees or presidents that crapped all over the Catholic Church. Obama has not only spit in the face of the Church he is trying his best to destroy it.
I can see the campaign add now. The minute the dinner is history there will be pictures of Dolan and Obama the church hater hugging and high-fiving. The White House is laughing in the face of Dolan and must think he’s the biggest moron this side of the moon.
Unless Dolan comes to his senses and this invitation is recinded Dolan might as well be working for the reelection of Obama the sodomnite-loving, baby-killing, Church hater.
I have lost all respect for Dolan.
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posted on
08/08/2012 3:16:04 PM PDT
by
NKP_Vet
To: Mears
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posted on
08/08/2012 3:18:40 PM PDT
by
Mears
To: NYer
Maybe they should have it catered by Chik-Fil-A.
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posted on
08/08/2012 3:20:02 PM PDT
by
Aevery_Freeman
(All Y'all White Peoples is racist!)
To: Mrs. Don-o
You're being entirely too reasonable for 90%
posting on FR. Sad commentary, but true, at
least to this old lurker. Too many people
here are wasting our time.
Thanks to you, maybe they will slow down before
they show their impaired I.Q.’s on this important
part of the campaign.
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posted on
08/08/2012 3:42:45 PM PDT
by
seenenuf
( Save the Right Supremes.)
To: Mrs. Don-o; NYer
Not being familiar with the Al Smith dinner, I checked out their web site. It appears there is a long history of inviting the Presidential candidates to speak at the dinner. I think it’s a delicious irony that President Obama’s presence will help support Catholic health causes.
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posted on
08/08/2012 4:24:40 PM PDT
by
rwa265
("This is My Beloved Son, Listen to Him.")
To: NKP_Vet
The minute the dinner is history there will be pictures of Dolan and Obama the church hater hugging and high-fiving. And the long-term effect of this is to give cover to the little old ladies who faithfully attend Mass and say their rosaries to continue voting D(emoncrap) year in and year out.
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posted on
08/08/2012 4:45:16 PM PDT
by
rhinohunter
(DraftWalkerNow)
To: NKP_Vet
The minute the dinner is history there will be pictures of Dolan and Obama the church hater hugging and high-fiving. And the long-term effect of this is to give cover to the little old ladies who faithfully attend Mass and say their rosaries to continue voting D(emoncrap) year in and year out.
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posted on
08/08/2012 4:45:30 PM PDT
by
rhinohunter
(DraftWalkerNow)
Comment #15 Removed by Moderator
To: rhinohunter
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posted on
08/08/2012 5:36:06 PM PDT
by
NKP_Vet
To: NYer
There appears to be an honest disagreement on strategy on this.But I look at what I think Cardinal Dolan has done recently to convince Catholics that we must get rid of the most anti-life President of all times.Not much to change the Catholic vote.In fact my NY parish bulletin had to go to Archbishop Chaput to get a great article on religious freedom.I think of how much better Cardinal O’Connor would have handled this great pro-life opportunity.
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posted on
08/08/2012 5:40:50 PM PDT
by
ardara
To: Rashputin
I hope the Admin Mod will delete your comment because of its morally offensive suggestion. I assume that --- with reference to that one sentence --- you posted quickly and thoughtlessly.
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posted on
08/08/2012 6:09:58 PM PDT
by
Mrs. Don-o
("Do not be rash with your mouth." - Ecclesiastes 5:2)
To: NKP_Vet
http://www.crisismagazine.com/2012/what-is-cardinal-dolan-up-to
What is Cardinal Dolan up to? According to reports, Dolan has extended an invitation to President Obama to the annual Al Smith dinner in New York City. The president, reportedly, has accepted.
Historically, the dinner is one of the most prestigious political events in New York City particularly during a presidential election year and candidates from both parties usually attend.
Known for its lighthearted political speeches, the major speakers deliver a series of self-deprecating jokes while ribbing their opponent at the same time. In October 2008, Senator John McCain and Senator Barack Obama both attended the dinner, accepting an invitation by Cardinal Egan of New York. During the dinner, Cardinal Eagan expressed his delight that Obama and McCain had attended, called them outstanding exemplary Americans.
But this year, some Catholics are surprised to hear that Archbishop Dolan had invited Obama, now that he is president. Should the Archbishop associate a fundraiser for Catholic Charities with a leader whose administration remains defiantly opposed to Church moral teachings?
Its not unprecedented in a presidential election year for a candidate not to be invited. In 1996, Cardinal OConnor did not invite President Clinton or Senator Dole to the dinner and, in 2004, neither Sen. John Kerry nor President Bush were invited.
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posted on
08/08/2012 6:20:48 PM PDT
by
NKP_Vet
To: NKP_Vet
From that link:
Please delete after your read.
CatholicSeymour
AKA Don Hammond
Fort Worth, TX
I'm guessing this didn't work out!
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posted on
08/08/2012 6:27:48 PM PDT
by
xone
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