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To: aMorePerfectUnion
verga, I don’t think there is an answer to your question, other than God chose it to be that way in the end times. This doesn’t make them mediators. It may just give emphasis to God treasuring as a sweet aroma, the prayers of His saints - who are later identified as those martyred and already departed from the earth.

This explains part of the problem. You ar4e under the (mistaken) impression that this is happening at the end times. This is occuring right now today.

“For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus...” I Timothy 2:5 You will have to overcome that clear statement to argue there are other mediators. Blessings to you.For some reason Protestants leave off the rest of the sentence. 1Ti 2:6 who gave himself as a ransom for all, which is the testimony given at the proper time.

When you look at the entire sentce it is not saying that Jesus is the only mediator, it is actually saying that Jesus was the single mediator that died for our sins. There can be otehr mediators, but none of them was able to die for our sins.

If you are corrct then why did Paul ask so many others to pray for him:

1Th 5:25 Brothers, pray for us.

2Th 3:1 Finally, brothers, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may speed ahead and be honored, as happened among you,

Heb 13:18 Pray for us, for we are sure that we have a clear conscience, desiring to act honorably in all things.

Col 4:3 At the same time, pray also for us, that God may open to us a door for the word, to declare the mystery of Christ, on account of which I am in prison--

2Co 1:11 You also must help us by prayer, so that many will give thanks on our behalf for the blessing granted us through the prayers of many.

Every person that read those words and acted on them were mediators, jsut as when your pastor asks you to pray for the sick of your congregation, yu are a mediator.

112 posted on 07/05/2012 12:34:29 PM PDT by verga (Every single cult leader believes in home schooling....Think about it.)
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To: verga

“This explains part of the problem. You ar4e under the (mistaken) impression that this is happening at the end times. This is occuring right now today.”

Oh? Nothing in the context indicates that in the least. If that were so, you could also look out your window and see Gods righteous Trumpet judgements falling on the earth.

Nor is there any indication this happens more than one time.


115 posted on 07/05/2012 3:05:51 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: verga

“This explains part of the problem. You ar4e under the (mistaken) impression that this is happening at the end times. This is occuring right now today.”

Oh? Nothing in the context indicates that in the least. If that were so, you could also look out your window and see Gods righteous Trumpet judgements falling on the earth.

Nor is there any indication this happens more than one time.


116 posted on 07/05/2012 3:06:11 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: verga

“This explains part of the problem. You ar4e under the (mistaken) impression that this is happening at the end times. This is occuring right now today.”

Oh? Nothing in the context indicates that in the least. If that were so, you could also look out your window and see Gods righteous Trumpet judgements falling on the earth.

Nor is there any indication this happens more than one time.


117 posted on 07/05/2012 3:06:31 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: verga

“This explains part of the problem. You ar4e under the (mistaken) impression that this is happening at the end times. This is occuring right now today.”

Oh? Nothing in the context indicates that in the least. If that were so, you could also look out your window and see Gods righteous Trumpet judgements falling on the earth.

Nor is there any indication this happens more than one time.


118 posted on 07/05/2012 3:06:38 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: verga

[Apologies for my multiple posts. Connection problems]

“This explains part of the problem. You ar4e under the (mistaken) impression that this is happening at the end times. This is occuring right now today. “

Everything after Revelation 4:1 is prophecy about the future...

4:1 After these things I looked, and there was a door standing open in heaven! And the first voice I had heard speaking to me like a trumpet said: “Come up here so that I can show you what must happen after these things.”


120 posted on 07/05/2012 5:16:12 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: verga

“When you look at the entire sentce it is not saying that Jesus is the only mediator, it is actually saying that Jesus was the single mediator that died for our sins. There can be otehr mediators, but none of them was able to die for our sins.”

Jesus Christ indeed is the mediator of the New Covenant.

... If you are going to make the argument that others are mediators, please show where the Greek word for mediator is used of another Christian, of of an angel.
... I know of nowhere in the Scriptures that says Mary or a departed believer, or an angel prays for us.

... I think it is also worth your inquiry to find a direct command to Christians that they should pray to anther Christian or angel. We do have the example in It’s a Wonderful Life, but of course, that isn’t Scripture.

... It is also worth noting here that CHRIST Himself continues to pray for us.
... It is also worth noting that the Holy Spirit intercedes for us when we don’t know what to pray.

Blessings to you.


122 posted on 07/05/2012 5:20:48 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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