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To: ansel12
Dear ansel12,

Actually, you made two different assertions there.

The first assertion is that “Catholics and liberal is not two different things [sic]...”

You equate Catholics with liberals (Or, perhaps, liberalism. Your syntax is fractured; the precise meaning thus is not quite obvious. But the gist is.). Your statement makes an identity between them. You say that they are not two different things. That assertion is false. Catholics are not so readily labeled. Some Catholics are liberals, some aren't.

“... the majority of Catholics are part of the liberal coalition.”

This is a different statement from the first. The first posits and identity between Catholics and liberal, which, as we've already seen, is false.

The second part doesn't mean the same as, “Catholics and liberal is not two different things...[sic]”

Thus, your statement is incoherent.

If you'd have stuck to those two somewhat incoherently juxtaposed clauses, one could chalk it up to poor writing skills, and just say, “What he meant was that a majority of Catholics are liberal - the first part was just poorly-written hyperbole.”

But then you talk about the “Catholic vote,” meaning that there is a relatively-unified, single bloc of voters. You even say:

“The Catholic denomination has traditionally been a dependable democrat voting block [sic],...”

As demonstrated, Catholics don't vote as a bloc. You don't show any understanding of the word “bloc.”


sitetest

48 posted on 12/03/2012 12:26:17 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

In the meantime, democrats can keep counting on the members of the catholic church to support their pro-abortion, liberal agenda.

The Catholic vote, it’s a democrat thing.


49 posted on 12/03/2012 12:54:06 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer's successful run in Nebraska)
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To: sitetest; ansel12
"As demonstrated, Catholics don't vote as a bloc."

Your facts and logic are impeccable, but don't expect that to influence the four legs good, two legs bad dialog on this subject from ansel12. The real story is that the largest "bloc" of Catholic voters are those who fail to cast a ballot. That number is consistently more than half of all self-identified Catholics. Of those that do vote it is indeed true that slightly more than half vote consistently Democrat, but it is disingenuous to continue to insist that the voting behavior of the 25% or so of the Catholics that vote vote Democrat is anything other that representative of that minority of Catholics.

Pax et Bonum.

50 posted on 12/03/2012 1:01:12 PM PST by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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