Scripture says, "No good thing shall he withhold from those who walk uprightly". Sometimes, in God's time frame, sickness, want, need, suffering IS the "good thing" for us at that time. It is ALWAYS for our best, He works all things for good. Don't shortchange God.
DON'T YOU!!!! And I'd appreciate it if you don't speak to me on what 'you think' about God on what HE does/doesn't do. He's MY God, that makes HIM personal to me. I KNOW HIM. His ways, His thoughts are higher than yours.
That will not be accepted by the name it and claim it crowd.
What they do with Hebrews 12:5-11 5 And have you forgotten the exhortation that addresses you as sons? “My son, do not regard lightly the discipline of the Lord, nor be weary when reproved by him. 6 For the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and chastises every son whom he receives.”
7 It is for discipline that you have to endure. God is treating you as sons. For what son is there whom his father does not discipline? 8 If you are left without discipline, in which all have participated, then you are illegitimate children and not sons.
9 Besides this, we have had earthly fathers who disciplined us and we respected them. Shall we not much more be subject to the Father of spirits and live? 10 For they disciplined us for a short time as it seemed best to them, but he disciplines us for our good, that we may share his holiness. 11 For the moment all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant, but later it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.
Charismatics disallow sickness as being the means of discipline and correction, but I have yet to see chapter and verse supporting that theology.
Hello boatbums....have been looking at some of Copelands teachings and is no wonder he’s considered a false teacher...he truly has developed his own teachings which go beyond and opposes God’s word and gives the very appearance of Jesus on earth as by the will of men as follows:
Copeland states:
“Jesus existed only as an image in the heart of God, until such time as the prophets of the Old Testament could positively ‘confess Jesus into existence’ through their constant prophecies” ....(Kenneth Copeland, The Power of the Tongue, pp. 8-10).
He further states:
“Here’s where we’re gonna depart from ordinary church:..... Now, you see, God is injecting His Word into the earth to produce this Jesus—these faith-filled words that framed the image that’s in Him…He can’t just walk onto the earth and say, “Let it be!” because He doesn’t have the right. He had to sneak it in here around the god of this world that was blockin’ every way that he possibly could.”...... (Kenneth Copeland, The Image of God in You III (Fort Worth, TX: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1989), audiotape #01-1403, side 2.
He continues by adding,...... “God was making promises to Jesus, and Jesus wasn’t even there. But, you see, God deals with things that are not yet as though they already were. That’s the way He gets them to come to pass.”...... (Kenneth Copeland, What Happened from the Cross to the Throne (Fort Worth, TX: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1990), audiotape #02-0017.)
Copeland states additionally and note the last sentence......”So before Jesus came to the earth, God spoke His Word and then spoke His Word again.... How many times did He say the Messiah was coming It was prophesied over hundreds, even thousands, of years. He kept saying, ‘He is coming. He is ‘coming..... the circumstances in the earth made it look as if there was no way He could accomplish it; but He just kept saying it. He would not be moved by what He saw.... God would not relent.” (the power of the tongue 9-10.) So here God spoke the universe into existence (which the Bible attributes to Jesus)...... but to make him a human it took a long time of confession.