Posted on 03/01/2012 10:57:22 AM PST by Colofornian
That is what is contained in the 2 Nephi 26-30, the section of the Book of Mormon that will be studied this Sunday in the LDS Church. This critique is set in the context of its supposed prophecy of Joseph Smith finding and translating the Book of Mormon.
These chapters contain quite a few condemnations of Christian churches. One that is emphasized and the one that I will be focusing on is its condemnation of the position held today by millions of Christians that the Bible alone is God’s revealed Word. Following are a couple of quotes from these chapters in the Book of Mormon that give a flavor for its position.
2 Nephi 28:29: Wo be unto him that shall say: We have received the word of God, and we need no more of the word of God, for we have enough!
2 Nephi 29: 3-6 And because my words shall hiss forth—many of the Gentiles shall say: A Bible! A Bible! We have got a Bible, and there cannot be any more Bible. But thus saith the Lord God: O fools, they shall have a Bible; and it shall proceed forth from the Jews, mine ancient covenant people. And what thank they the Jews for the Bible which they receive from them? Yea, what do the Gentiles mean? Do they remember the travails, and the labors, and the pains of the Jews, and their diligence unto me, in bringing forth salvation unto the Gentiles? O ye Gentiles, have ye remembered the Jews, mine ancient covenant people? Nay; but ye have cursed them, and have hated them, and have not sought to recover them. But behold, I will return all these things upon your own heads; for I the Lord have not forgotten my people. Thou fool, that shall say: A Bible, we have got a Bible, and we need no more Bible. Have ye obtained a Bible save it were by the Jews?
As I said, that is just one of numerous condemnations of Christians and Christian churches in those chapters. As I reread those chapters this week, the thought that kept coming to mind was why would any Mormon today want to try to identify themselves, in any way, with the Christian church? These chapters draw a bold and distinct line between Mormonism and Christian churches. In fact, these chapters connect the actions and beliefs of Christian churches with Satan himself! That is even brought out in the conclusion of the teacher’s guide for this lesson. Its conclusion: “Explain that through studying the Book of Mormon and living the gospel, we will gain the power to avoid Satan’s deceptive illusions and be guided as we strive to stay on the strait and narrow path.”
In his book, Mormon Doctrine, Bruce R. McConkie, faithfully reflects the flavor of these chapters from 2 Nephi in his definition of Christendom. “The term also applies to the whole body of supposed Christian believers; as now constituted this body is properly termed apostate Christendom.” Again, I ask, why would any Mormon want to, in any way, identify themselves with apostates?
Ah, we can see that when the demons helped Joseph Smith put this one together, that God mandated a "truth in advertising" disclaimer imbedded...notice that word, "hiss." What "hisses forth" words in the Bible? Yup. That's right. That crafty serpent in the Garden otherwise known as the devil.
From the blog, citing the Book of Mormon: 2 Nephi 28:29: Wo be unto him that shall say: We have received the word of God, and we need no more of the word of God, for we have enough!
In reality, it's not just that Mormons condemn Christians for not being open to additional revelation from God; no...it's actually that they condemn Christians for rejecting Joseph Smith and a few other Mormon leaders as the portal for such "revelations."
When we consider that these "revelations" from Mormon leaders include...
...Joseph Smith's "go for it" multi-wife scheme -- written in 1843 but tucked away amongst Mormon leadership until 1852 when a book by a "Gentile" (Gunnison) announced their practice to the world...
...Wilford Woodruff's stop going for it announcement in 1890 re: multiple wives...
...Spencer W. Kimball's announcement that the Mormon god changed his mind about black people and their skin color is irrelevant, after all...
...Why would any thinking, discerning person deems what the Mormon god has to say in further commentary as worthy of any additional addendums to the Bible?
To the best of my knowledge, Romney is not visiting Christian churches.
He and his people have decided they can win this without the Christian Right.
So...the Mormons give Christians all these "Woes" because we won't accept Joseph Smith as an addendum author of the Bible.
That's the reality in a nutshell. And, as Mark Cares, points out further: ...why would any Mormon today want to try to identify themselves, in any way, with the Christian church?...In his book, Mormon Doctrine, Bruce R. McConkie, faithfully reflects the flavor of these chapters from 2 Nephi in his definition of Christendom. “The term also applies to the whole body of supposed Christian believers; as now constituted this body is properly termed apostate Christendom.” Again, I ask, why would any Mormon want to, in any way, identify themselves with apostates?
Yes...why would over half of the Mormon hymns in their hymnal come from Christian so-called "apostate" sources?
Why do Mormons in one breath reference us as "apostates" and in the next breath say THEY are "other" Christians, too?
Why?
It's called the sin of coveting. They want the brand name of "Christian."
Of course, this means if Mormonism was a "restoration" from the ground up of Christianity, it means that Mormonism took the scorched-earth route & gave worldwide Christianity a mass burial early in the 19th century.
Mormons just don't want to publicly concede that they think of themselves as the spiritual gravediggers of worldwide Christianity. (Doesn't come across as very congenial, civil, or "ecumenical.")
Their references to our country's founding fathers as "apostates" -- to our church's founding catalysts as "apostates" -- isn't very "pretty."
Oh. And one more thing. When the leading GOP candidate believes the same thing...not exactly very inspiring to vote for him. I mean, here he is giving his $millions to spread the slander that Christians are "APOSTATES," that our professing believers are supposedly ALL "corrupt," & that our creeds are supposedly 100% abominable...and Christians are rewarding him for such spiritual militance with their votes?
Can you say they get an "F" in discernment?
Wow... never thought I would agree with anything from the Book of Mormon... but that’s pretty good stuff there. It’s an attack on Sola Scriptura... which is unbiblical... and a reminder that salvation is from the Jews. Not bad.
[Donning flame retardants...]
The Mormon “You’re a bigot if you speak the truth” Brigade in 5, 4, 3, 2.........
The BoM also condemns to hellfire all those who have had their children baptized as infants...
They can't do this without the Christian Right. In 2010, white Evangelicals constituted 34% of the turnout.
Romney can't win the South without the Christian Right.
And his only win in a primary in 2008 & 2012 outside of his home turf is Florida & AZ...FL due to the elderly vote...
If the mormons think they’ve been persecuted in the past, just wait until Romney gets the nomination. In fact, with the money obama has behind him he may single handedly destroy the mormon church.
What "hisses forth" words in the Bible? Yup. That's right. That crafty serpent in the Garden otherwise known as the devil.
Yep. And when you expose a Mormon to the truth, sometimes they hiss too!
Vot for a mormon for president who claims he’s a Christian.....
OR
Vote for a muslim for presidnet who claims he’s a Christian.....
What’s a man to do? WRITE IN!
“Wow... never thought I would agree with anything from the Book of Mormon... but that’s pretty good stuff there. It’s an attack on Sola Scriptura... which is unbiblical... “
Unsurprisingly, most cults shy away from Sola Scriptura (which is decidedly Biblical) because it interferes with their ability to introduce wacky ideas.
1. Salvation is from God. God made a way for Salvation through his Son. Humans (Jews) are not able to provide salvation since they are not more powerful than God.
2. The Bible does say in Revelation that nothing should be added to Scripture.
3. Galatians chapter one says that if anyone comes along preaching a Gospel other than what Paul preached they should be accursed.
“my words shall hiss forth”
Interesting verb choice, for those who have ears to hear.
God may have raised him up for just that purpose. He does not suffer false religion forever. There are many naive people who have been duped by these purveyors of religious lies. I pity those poor people. Mitt Romney does not fall into that category. He has been one of their leaders and is part of one of the families that helped start and spread this pagan faith.
Oh, goody. Prove it.
Just to frame the debate... why don't you define Sola Scriptura and then point in the Bible to where the Bible teaches it. Good luck.
I didn't say we are saved by the Jews. I said, "Salvation is from the Jews." I think I stand on solid ground... John 4:22.
2. The Bible does say in Revelation that nothing should be added to Scripture.
No. Revelation says that nothing should be added to the Book of Revelation.
3. Galatians chapter one says that if anyone comes along preaching a Gospel other than what Paul preached they should be accursed.
And so it should be.
“why don’t you define Sola Scriptura ...”
“The Bible contains all that is necessary to find salvation and to live a life that is pleasing to God.”
Etymology traps the mormons again...
Bible - Origin:
1300–50; Middle English bible, bibel < Old French bible < Medieval Latin biblia (feminine singular) < Greek, in tà biblía tà hagía (Septuagint) the holy books; biblíon, byblíon papyrus roll, strip of papyrus, equivalent to býbl ( os ) papyrus (after Býblos, a Phoenician port where papyrus was prepared and exported) + -ion noun suffix
Maybe God is reminding His people of Psalm 146:3 - "Do not put your trust in princes, in mortal men, who cannot save." The fact that we will likely have two God-haters running for President probably tells us that God's hand of judgment is on our nation. As Christians, we need to remember that God is in control and to act as believers in this situation.
This is the first time in our history that we have two men running for office who have shown by their actions that they hate God's church and God's people. In the past, we had candidates who were clearly not believers but who weren't overtly hostile to orthodox believers. IMO, a Christian should not vote for either one since Obama has shown in the contraception/abortion debacle his disregard for the concerns of Christians and Romney who to hold his high office in the Mormon "church" has to hate true Christianity. If confronted with a choice of Obama versus Romney, I'll leave the Presidential line blank and vote for other candidates who pledge to thwart the plans of either of the duds at the top of the ticket.
Because I'm known for my strong Christian views and my interest in politics, I've been approached by a dozen or so Christians about this dilemma. As I have explained my reasoning on this, most have agreed and said that they wouldn't vote for Romney either. When asked if this would guarantee Obama's re-election, I say probably but this doesn't concern me that much. IMO, choosing between Obama and Romney is same as choosing between a Ford and a Mercury, the political differences are only cosmetic.
“The Bible contains all that is necessary to find salvation and to live a life that is pleasing to God.”
I guess your Web browser dropped this part of pgyanke's request:
and then point in the Bible to where the Bible teaches it.
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