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To: caww

>> Then how can any catholic “confess” to a Priest as the mediator between them and God....they don’t past the test. <<

That a priest persists in grave sin is gravely harmful. Moreso, when a bishop tolerates the sin, without discipline or correction, or when the sin is notorious or grave. The failure to correct or remove sinful priests is what John Crysostom meant when he said, “The floor of Hell is paved with the skulls of bishops.”

Yet, Chrysostom did not abandon the Catholic Church; and in fact, he argued strenuously that the sacraments conferred by such a bishop or his priests are still valid, so long as the outward signs of the sacrament are present. (Hang out on the Catholic threads, and you’ll read the Catholics protesting “he’s doing it wrong!” all the time!) That’s because it matters not what sins the priest has committed. He is ONLY a mediator; he does not make the sacrament sufficient or not.

Crysostom is not a slanderer. In fact, Crysostom is not even his real name. It’s an appellation he was given by the Catholic Church for speaking the truth, which means, “The Golden Mouth.”


305 posted on 01/09/2012 6:10:17 AM PST by dangus
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To: dangus; caww; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; count-your-change; ...
Yet, Chrysostom did not abandon the Catholic Church; and in fact, he argued strenuously that the sacraments conferred by such a bishop or his priests are still valid, so long as the outward signs of the sacrament are present. (Hang out on the Catholic threads, and you’ll read the Catholics protesting “he’s doing it wrong!” all the time!) That’s because it matters not what sins the priest has committed. He is ONLY a mediator; he does not make the sacrament sufficient or not.

So the same hands that molest little boys can consecrate a host to make it holy and serve communion to those little boys and their families and it's all OK because the personal holiness of the life of the priest doesn't have any effect on his ability to perform his priestly duties?

Why do I feel like throwing up?

Galatians 6:7-8 7 Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap. 8 For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

310 posted on 01/09/2012 10:19:01 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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