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To: UriÂ’el-2012
Jews have always believed that there is ONLY ONE YHvH !

That is why they are not considered Christians.

The RCC introduced the concept of Three gods: father, son and ghost.

The concept of multiple persons started as far back as Ignatius, Polycarp, Barnabas and Justin Martyr. Now, that was seen in more of a subordinationist light; Origen of Alexandria was a proponent.

No, Trinitarianism was formalized at Nicea with the vast majority of clergy there non Roman. Your post fails again.

Yah'shua said he and the "father" are ONE. Father and son are metaphors.

Obviously they are metaphors. One what? Did Jesus pray to Himself in the Garden? Did Jesus Ascend and then send Himself to the room at Pentecost?

I think that we will have to admit that once again, you do not preach Christianity. Neither Christian nor Jew and rejected by both...

368 posted on 12/30/2011 1:40:49 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr

MarkBsnr Have you ever heard of Benjamin Fulford? I tried to post an interview with him about the 137 billion dollar bond seizure in Italy and the current lawsuit in New York but it was pulled by the FR moderators?


369 posted on 12/30/2011 2:52:39 PM PST by marbren (I do not know but, Thank God, God knows)
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To: MarkBsnr
Uri'el>Jews have always believed that there is ONLY ONE YHvH !

That is why they are not considered Christians.

By your reasoning
then Yah'shua , Peter, Paul,
Matthew, Luke, and John
were not Christians.

That is true they were all Jews.

And all but Yah'shua were Messianic Jews.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
370 posted on 12/30/2011 2:59:47 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: MarkBsnr
Uri'el>The RCC introduced the concept of Three gods: father, son and ghost.

The concept of multiple persons started as far back as Ignatius, Polycarp, Barnabas and Justin Martyr. Now, that was seen in more of a subordinationist light; Origen of Alexandria was a proponent.

They were all Greeks introducing Greek Pagan
syndicalism of a pantheon of gods.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
372 posted on 12/30/2011 3:07:14 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: MarkBsnr
Uri'el>Yah'shua said he and the "father" are ONE. Father and son are metaphors.

Obviously they are metaphors. One what? Did Jesus pray to Himself in the Garden? Did Jesus Ascend and then send Himself to the room at Pentecost? I think that we will have to admit that once again, you do not preach Christianity. Neither Christian nor Jew and rejected by both...

So you are so all-knowing,
that you, a created being, a sinner,
whose works are like filthy rags,
can with absolute precision DEFINE
who or what Elohim:YHvH is except
what He has told us in His WORD.

That seems to be the pinnacle
of arrogance and blasphemy.

Seek YHvH in His WORD !

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
376 posted on 12/30/2011 3:21:18 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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