To: greyfoxx39
the mormon church elevated bigotry to its highest level ever when Joseph Smith founded his sect on the premise that all other creeds were wrongHmm. In the 1832 and two 1835 versions of the First Vision, Smith doesn't say he was told that all other creeds were wrong. The 1838 and 1842 versions (the official version published in Times and Seasons and dated back to 1838) of the First Vision stated that two personages told Smith that all churches are corrupt.
Of course, the whole reliance upon The First Vision is an interesting thing, historically, because the LDS Church didn't rely upon The First Vision as an integral part of its teachings until the early 1880s. It was Joseph F. Smith, as President (Prophet) who made the 1842/1883 version of the First Vision part of the LDS Canon in 1880. When Gordon B. Hinckley said in 1998 that "[o]ur entire case as members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints rests on the validity of this glorious First Vision," he was talking about something that wasn't even a material part of the church's teachings for its first 50 years of its existence.
23 posted on
12/23/2011 10:03:13 AM PST by
Scoutmaster
(You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
To: Scoutmaster; greyfoxx39
I'm on a horse....
The plaque above is found in Temple Square with Joseph Smith a top it.
Do the Latter Day Saints corporately and collectively believe this and support that view point? Of course they do. Otherwise, if there is no resurrected church then there is no LDS.
But everyone outside their group is "Anti-Mormon"? LOL They are Anti-Christian and seek not only to undermine Christianity and their beliefs but outright work to subordinate one man to another, in that one must accept the Prophets words as sacrosanct and inviolable.
No man pays fealty to another as their superior because thier so called god ordains it.
27 posted on
12/23/2011 10:32:25 AM PST by
Vendome
(Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
To: Scoutmaster
"all churches are corrupt." "all other creeds were wrong"....notice I stated that he founded his sect on the
premise that all other creeds were wrong.
I don't see where your post invalidates my statement.
The same premise continues to this day with the "only true church" meme of mormons and illuminates the bigotry.
29 posted on
12/23/2011 11:07:53 AM PST by
greyfoxx39
(Holy, Holy, Holy..."God in Three Persons, Blessed Trinity")
To: Scoutmaster
...the First Vision stated that two personages told Smith that all churches are corrupt.Oh?
I could only find data that claimed that ONE 'personage' spoke and the other was SILENT.
NIV Galatians 1:6-9
6. I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel--
7. which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.
8. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
9. As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!
Even ANGELs from HEAVEN???
It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound.
When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air.
One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the otherThis is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
NIV Galatians 1:6-9
6. I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel--
7. which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.
8. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
9. As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!
ANYBODY???
Like this fine looking fellow???
2 Corinthians 11:12-15
12. And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about.
13. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ.
14. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
15. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.
44 posted on
12/23/2011 1:50:42 PM PST by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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