Replies

>>The 'rocky ground' people believed, but Jesus tells us that they 'fall away'. Therefore a 'one time belief' as a basis for salvation is false by Christ's word.<<

You have never once heard me say that belief (that is current belief) is not needed for salvation. Why would you assume that if one no longer believes that they still have salvation?

>>You may wish to use another translation. Verse 14 tells of those who are being sanctified, not those that are.<<

Once again, if people are being added to your church does that mean if they stop being added they are no longer added? Or does it take a lifetime to be added to your church? Even if it did say “being santified” it doesn’t matter because it’s multiple people who are being sanctified. The same as multiple people being added to the church. Not one person being added over a long period of time. You cannot take that one verse and force a totally separate meaning from all the other verses.

>>The 'rocky ground' people believed, but Jesus tells us that they 'fall away'. Therefore a 'one time belief' as a basis for salvation is false by Christ's word.<<

You have never once heard me say that belief (that is current belief) is not needed for salvation. Why would you assume that if one no longer believes that they still have salvation?

I must apologize if I have lumped you in with the OSAS crowd. With all the esoteric beliefs and widely disparate theologies, it is sometimes difficult to keep track of who believes what. The preceding post led me to believe that you fell in that crowd on that point.

>>You may wish to use another translation. Verse 14 tells of those who are being sanctified, not those that are.<<

I am speaking of the individual. Sanctification is a process, not a point. It occurs over a period of time - the length of time that that person engages in being sanctified (what?). The time may be short (deathbed conversion e.g.) or a whole lifetime (the workers in the vineyard e.g.).