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To: Jvette; Alamo-Girl
I don’t agree with that, many have know the love of Christ without ever knowing Scripture.

Who and how?

Romans 10:17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ.

Some perhaps, but I'm not even sure of that. However, *many* is highly suspect.

Back to the enlightening of the Holy Spirit when reading Scripture......

Has it not ever happened to you that you were reading something in the Bible and all of a sudden you see a verse in a new light and sit back and say, *Wow! I never saw that before* (or Never saw it like that before)?

That is the enlightening of the Holy Spirit.

So, even if the Holy Spirit's enlightenment is only for a select few men to interpret for us what God said, who or what interprets their interpretation to us so that we understand what THEY said correctly. What they said needs correct interpretation as well, and after reading much of the CCC, even more so than Scripture.

The Bible is EASY to understand compared to the CCC.

2,965 posted on 11/20/2011 1:12:46 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Jvette; metmom; presently no screen name
Good morning, dear siblings in Christ! Truly, Jvette, I love all of you and thank God for all of you!

Jvette: many have know the love of Christ without ever knowing Scripture

Instantly, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob come to mind as do the unloved, unwanted, unborn of our generation. And no doubt there were physically and socially handicapped people over the ages who diligently sought God.

For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. - Romans 9:15

But that is no justification or excuse for the rest of us.

But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. – Matt 4:4

Give us this day our daily bread. – Matt 6:11

I am that bread of life. – John 6:48

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life. – John 6:63

I can envision many at the judgment being convicted by the very existence of Scriptures.

To put it another way, a person's claim to love God is belied when he didn't bother to read His correspondence.

Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. - Matt 22:37-38

This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with [their] lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me, teaching [for] doctrines the commandments of men. - Matthew 15:8-9

In my view that conviction would be even more painful than not having "ears to hear" in the first place.

Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word. - John 8:43

Not that the person would be condemned (I don't know) but rather that he squandered so great a gift.

And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves. I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. - John 17:13-17

To God be the glory, not man, never man.

2,977 posted on 11/20/2011 7:40:06 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: metmom

****Some perhaps, but I’m not even sure of that. However, *many* is highly suspect.****

Do you deny that millions of Christians believed having never read Scripture or interpreted it for themselves?

****Has it not ever happened to you that you were reading something in the Bible and all of a sudden you see a verse in a new light and sit back and say, *Wow! I never saw that before* (or Never saw it like that before)? ****

Yes, it has. That we can read Scripture is a blessing we have that others before us didn’t. But, we must guard against thinking we are perfect in our understanding.

Scripture has been used by the Devil who knows it very well. That is why the Holy Spirit safeguards us by giving us an authority by which we can read it.

****The Bible is EASY to understand compared to the CCC.***

The TRUTH is easy to understand. Many have been led astray by charlatans who confuse people with their knowledge of Scripture and the ability to twist what it means to suit their agenda.


2,989 posted on 11/20/2011 10:15:34 AM PST by Jvette
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