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To: D-fendr; metmom; CynicalBear; boatbums; bibletruth
I'm sure you believe you follow Christ's words, that's what you strive to do. Follow Him as He instructed His followers during His earthly ministry. Tell me, when is the last time you cast out a devil? or spoke with new tongues? or taken up serpents, or drank any poisonous thing, or lay hands on the sick and they were healed?

"And He said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved..."And these signs SHALL follow THEM THAT BELIEVE; In my name SHALL they cast out devils; they SHALL speak with new tongues; they SHALL take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it SHALL not hurt them; they SHALL lay hands on the sick, and they SHALL recover." Mark 16:15-18.

This says quite plainly that all who believe and are baptized SHALL do these things. Not just a few, it says ALL who believe. It does not say maybe, or should, or can, if you have enough faith. It does not say to pick out a few signs that fit your personality and let them be for you; it says ALL signs are for ALL who believe.

Or let's go a little simpler. When did you sell all you had and joined together with other believers and had all in common? When did you give alms?

Now, if you were truly following ALL of Christ's words, would you not be doing these very things He instructed you to do? I didn't think so. And yet, you choose not to follow Christ's revelations to Paul, for us, either. So you are following those things you choose to follow. Is that what Christ said to do? Either in the kingdom gospel or the gospel of the grace of God? I'll let you answer that one.

1,572 posted on 11/09/2011 8:30:32 PM PST by smvoice (Who the *#@! is Ivo of Chatre & why am I being accused of not linking to his quote?)
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To: smvoice

I’m far from following all of Christ’s words. This is my failing not Christ’s and why I pray for His mercy.

But my failing does not mean Christ’s teaching are wrong or no longer in effect.

Christ is Truth. This is fundamental Christian faith, it has no ‘sell by’ date.

Study those who do better than I in following Christ, study Mt. Athos for example, if you no longer believe what He taught is true.

My, and your, failures and weaknesses in no way make Christ’s words, ministry and being false or no longer in effect.

Honestly, in my opinion it only compounds, sublimates or makes a crutch out of our weakness to go the route you’ve chosen and give up on following Christ.


1,574 posted on 11/09/2011 8:48:51 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: smvoice
"And He said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved..."And these signs SHALL follow THEM THAT BELIEVE; In my name SHALL they cast out devils; they SHALL speak with new tongues; they SHALL take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it SHALL not hurt them; they SHALL lay hands on the sick, and they SHALL recover." Mark 16:15-18.

Say, isn't that passage in Mark the one that Catholics like to appeal to to demand that water baptism is required for salvation, but then ignore when it comes to the rest of it?

1,578 posted on 11/09/2011 8:52:19 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: smvoice
"And He said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved..."And these signs SHALL follow THEM THAT BELIEVE; In my name SHALL they cast out devils; they SHALL speak with new tongues; they SHALL take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it SHALL not hurt them; they SHALL lay hands on the sick, and they SHALL recover." Mark 16:15-18.

Who was He saying this to? The Eleven. And by implication their successors. He was telling them to perform or be associated with miracles. Hint: what does the requirement for a Catholic Saint include?

1,593 posted on 11/09/2011 9:11:51 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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