Posted on 10/28/2011 6:59:29 AM PDT by markomalley
Plus it wouldn't do any good. That's why I didn't bother.
I have made meaningful theological contact with some folks on here that were much more hostile to Catholics than CB.
You must have missed all the passages that tell of Jesus sitting to eat with many different people. Even the Pharisees. I believe it was metmom who posted those verses already.
And I have previously posted that a king may eat with his subjects, but they are still his subjects. Jesus tells us that He is our friend only if we do what He commands. Do you have any personal and intimate friends who impose that upon you as a condition for friendship? Jesus imposes that upon us as a condition of His friendship.
"In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel." (the gospel committed to Paul). ROm. 2:16. It is the gospel of the grace of God that saves. Without it, you are dead in your sins. There remains no other sacrifice for your sins if you have rejected the finished work of Christ on your behalf. God will judge men by that very gospel.
This is a very good example of how people can fail to understand Paul. Some might think that Paul originated the Gospel, or else has one separate from Jesus by these words.
John 15:15 No longer do I call you servants, for the servant does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all that I have heard from my Father I have made known to you.
I posted that yesterday, but I posted the entire passage. You might want to show that you are not simply prooftexting once again and reread the entire passage in order to understand what He truly means here.
He is telling us that He will only be friends with us (benevolent king) if we (His subjects) do as He commands. Do your friends tell you that they will only be your friend if you do as they command?
“Jesus tells us that He is our friend only if we do what He commands.”
Feed the hungry, heal the sick, clothe the naked, visit those in prison...
Wasn't he a speech writer for Martin Luther?
Old Hank Tudor just didn't have the imagination that Joseph Smith did. He did not care about what was done in church, just that he got to do some looting and get that troublesome Pope off his back.
Pray tell, what DID he mean?
Actually it not Christianity that is about done. It is the ruins of the Reformation that are about done. Witness the Episcopal church and the Presbyterian church and the Pentecostals and...
When will they pass from allowing homosexual actions and marriage in your bunch to making it mandatory?
“For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.
Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine; I will repay, says the Lord.” And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.” (Hebrews 10:26-31)
You have never once heard me say that belief (that is current belief) is not needed for salvation. Why would you assume that if one no longer believes that they still have salvation?
>>You may wish to use another translation. Verse 14 tells of those who are being sanctified, not those that are.<<
Once again, if people are being added to your church does that mean if they stop being added they are no longer added? Or does it take a lifetime to be added to your church? Even if it did say “being santified” it doesn’t matter because it’s multiple people who are being sanctified. The same as multiple people being added to the church. Not one person being added over a long period of time. You cannot take that one verse and force a totally separate meaning from all the other verses.
Do I expect my friends to not turn away from me? Sure. Besides, it’s you trivializing what Protestants say. A personal relationship does not indicate demeaning or disrespecting the person you have that relationship with. Do you treat your wife with respect or disdain? Trying to imply that by saying we have a personal relationship we somehow demean that relationship may well reflect on your view of the term “personal relationship”.
That crap is so juvenile. If you tie that to all Protestants should we also tie the pedophiles to you?
That’s exactly what Catholics do by claiming there need to be works added.
I have seen Protestants pronounce that once they proclaim their own salvation then all sins, even unrepented sins, from that point forward are washed away.
"If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God." - Heb 10:26-27
Oh.. you mean the teachings of the Apostles.... not the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church which did not exist at that time. Gotcha.
Still.. YOPIOS? After all, you indicated "I" --
Hoss
“might” and “should” are the keywords? Mark...SHIRLEY you don’t mean that...because if I thought you were SERIES...
Of course not, but sin is not an unintentional act or oversight. All sin is a deliberate choice to reject good and no one is ignorant of the principles of the natural law, which are written in the conscience of every man.
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