Posted on 10/28/2011 6:59:29 AM PDT by markomalley
From what we have seen thoroughly demonstrated in these threads many of those who profess to have been Catholics are no more former Catholics than those who profess to having been Navy SEALs ever smelled cordite.
Actually, yes. Sounds more like something coming from a pagan or a muslim but it fits with their ‘God’s Word is not the final authority’.
They deny Him at their own peril and I believe the time when the HS calls them to Him is long past.
Good grief. Do Catholics not read scripture at all?
Apparently a lot more than many Bible Believers, given the ridiculous positions posted on this very thread.
1 Corinthians 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
If you read the previous 10 verses and put this into context, what Paul is doing is comparing their former sinful selves to their current state. According to http://scripturetext.com/1_corinthians/6-11.htm, the verse actually says:
Some of you were formerly like that but you are now washed, and are made holy and you are freed in the name of Jesus. They were freed from their former state. Remember that Paul is chewing them out and reminding them that they need to be better about things than they currently are. They are going before pagan judges with lawsuits against each other. Hardly perfection.
Hebrews 10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
They will be made perfect at some future period, and when that shall take place it will be to continue forever and ever. They are not perfect now. If you were perfect, you would never sin, right?
Hardly a diversion. They are not Apocrypha.
A heaping helping of YOPIOS goes a long way, doesn't it?
Matthew 16:18-19. But of course you know the verses of which I speak.
I am just going to consider the source. Thanks for the kind words, my brother in Christ!
LOL They were doing then what Catholics do today.
>>They are not perfect now. If you were perfect, you would never sin, right?<<
Once again I need to remind of the passage.
Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
Luke quoted the Greek inscription. OUTOS ESTIN O BASILEUS TWN IOUDAIWN (This is The King of The Jews)
Matthew since he was writing to the Jews whose language was Hebrew quoted the Hebrew inscription. This is The King of The Jews.
Interesing. I don't recall seeing this claim before. Do you have a source? After all, the NT was written entirely in Greek. Why would the Gospel writings each pick a different language?
Ive been asked that over and over by Catholics and other pagans trying to discredit scripture. It gets really old because it only points to their lack of study of scripture.
I don't discredit Scripture. I do discredit pagans who make believe that they are true Christians and the real Christians are in fact, not.
The Rock is God not Peter.
Jesus does not claim the rest of the verse on that day..and the day of vengeance of our God: to comfort all that mourn." Is.61:2b.
After Jesus quotes "To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord", He CLOSES the book and sits down. And says " THIS DAY IS THIS SCRIPTURE FULFILLED IN YOUR EARS." Luke 1:21.
"The acceptable year of the Lord" was what was fulfilled "This day". But "and the day of vengeance of our God: to comfort all that mourn." was not part of what was fulfilled that day.
What I'm getting at here is that Christ took one verse of Scripture and divided it. Not one Chapter, or one of several verses, but ONE VERSE. For a reason. He gave part of it, and did not give the other part of it. Why do you think He did that? And does it matter in God's Plan for man, in your opinion?
And let’s not forget the German Princes wanting freedom from the Holy Roman Emperor, Charles. And in the case of Luther, freedom to use exlax!!! (Humor).......lol
We’re still dealing with a tiny subset of protestants here, but I believe some in that group would be formerAny Church That Has Authority.
Perhaps some have gone through several churches that tried to tell them they were wrong on thisorthat point of the Christian Faith in order to arrive at the ultimate rebel destination where no one can tell them anything: The Church of Me.
That isn’t what it says......(mr. SOLA SCRIPTURAL) ......humor
Or the Church of the Holy Living Room/garage!......lol
Or The Church of My Holy Monitor...
Walk into ANY Southern Baptist Church. I WAS RAISED HEARING ABOUT ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED!
Because of who they were and who they were writing to. Good grief man, Luke says there were three languages used. Latin was the official government language of Rome, Greek was the language of the culture and Hebrew the language of the Jews. John even records who wrote it.
John 19:19 And Pilate wrote a title, and put it on the cross. He was quoting Pilate who would have started with Latin as it was the Roman language.
Luke was writing to Theophilus who was Greek so would have used the Greek.
Matthew was writing to the Jews so used the Hebrew.
>> I don't discredit Scripture. I do discredit pagans who make believe that they are true Christians and the real Christians are in fact, not.<<
And I suppose you were not also trying to trap me thinking I would have to agree that other parts of scripture have errors just like the books left out of scripture by Protestants. Give me a break. That tactic has been used on me by Atheists, Catholics, and Pagans. Like I said before. It only indicates that the person using that ill conceived tactic hasnt really read and studied scripture.
Thats exactly what it says.
In Matthew 16 Jesus is talking to all of the Apostles. They were all asked the question of who they thought He was. Though Peter was the one who answered for the group Jesus was talking to them all. When Peter said that they believed He was Christ the Son of the Living God Jesus replied and said that it was not flesh and blood that had revealed that to Peter but that it was my Father which is in heaven. He then says to Peter and thou art Peter, acknowledging that He knew who Peter was just as Peter knew who Jesus was. Then Jesus, referring back to my Father which is in heaven, says, upon this rock I will build my church.
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