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Muti sides with pope against Church 'sing-songs'
Ansa ^ | 27 May 2011

Posted on 05/27/2011 12:31:09 PM PDT by GonzoII

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Okay, everybody sing along now!!

"This Mass is ended all go in peace..."

1 posted on 05/27/2011 12:31:14 PM PDT by GonzoII
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To: GonzoII

Thank God for Pope Benedict!


2 posted on 05/27/2011 12:38:05 PM PDT by Diago (What is the Silver Lake Conspiracy?)
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To: GonzoII

Bless his heart.


3 posted on 05/27/2011 12:44:59 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Oh most loving Father, preserve us from faithless fears and worldly anxieties.)
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To: GonzoII

This thread calls for some STRYPER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

4 posted on 05/27/2011 12:48:29 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

“Calling on YOU”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI8ylsHKIMg

Stryper \ Calling On You

Inside of me there is a lonely place
Sometimes I just don’t know it’s there
But when I’m all alone
That’s when I have to face...

[Bridge]
The part of me that needs someone
To be by my side that’s when I call on...

[Chorus]
You, You make my life complete
You give me all I need
You help me through and through
I’m calling on you

I can’t explain just what You do to me
My love grows stronger everyday
You give me love, You give me company
And when I have to face the rain
You bring sunshine into my life

[Repeat Chorus]
[Solo]
[Repeat Chorus]


5 posted on 05/27/2011 12:50:04 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: GonzoII

I used to be a Catholic, and some of that liturgical music put me to sleep it was SO repetitious. At least with what we used to refer to as “Guitar Mass”, nobody would be sleeping, especially when the bass player showed up!


6 posted on 05/27/2011 1:06:45 PM PDT by getarope (I came here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I am all out of bubble gum!)
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To: fishtank

I’m not a huge fan of that type of hair metal glam-rock, but I always laugh at so called rock fans who say that Stryper wasn’t rock. I mean, they threw bibles out to the crowd like WASP threw raw meat. That always sounded pretty rocknroll to me, espescially considering it made a lot of so-called rock folks upset. They were just upset that it made them uncomfortable instead of the “squares” for a change.

Freegards


7 posted on 05/27/2011 1:08:20 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: GonzoII

I agree, but it has to be done well. To do chant badly and make it monotonous and depressing is worse than the hootenanny.


8 posted on 05/27/2011 1:39:18 PM PDT by Desdemona ( If trusting the men in the clergy was a requirement for Faith, there would be no one in the pews.)
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To: GonzoII
This is a lack of respect for people's intelligence

Amen!

9 posted on 05/27/2011 2:17:50 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Just once I'd like someone to call me 'Sir' without adding 'You're making a scene.' - Homer Simpson)
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To: GonzoII

I do not miss the insipid, new age music that was introduced in the seventies. Garbage.

Hymns that are Biblical are the ones I love most.

Just as the rest of the Mass is so is the music. It is one’s approach and attitude that makes the liturgy worshipful and uplifting.


10 posted on 05/27/2011 2:44:02 PM PDT by Jvette
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To: GonzoII; All
"Culture clash" - LOL!

I have got to send this to my Church music ministers...

I've never heard of "Stryker"?

IMHO, "contemporary" music is fine, if it is good music...the problem truly is with insipid "feel-good" lyrics, set inappropriately to the music (church musicians will know what I mean - there's some really bad music out there, either texts, or settings, or both)!

The music doesn't have to be so "sophisticated" or pretentious, but it does have to have some worthwhile quality about it, besides being "accessible" to the whole assembly...

"Pop" music is different than "contemporary" music, and /church music rant, LOL!! Remember Memorial Day, and meantime, happy 6th Sunday of Easter! ;)

11 posted on 05/27/2011 3:25:11 PM PDT by 88keys
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I never heard of "Stryper", either...LOL!

I guess I'm behind the times...but it's really a dilemma (sic) for smaller parishes when it comes to "competing" with the "mega-Churches" for membership in this day and age...if you don't have a rock band, a parish teen rock band, perhaps a country-western Mass, etc., then somewhere else is always going to be more "fun" and "vibrant", and possibly more individually "meaningful" to attend, especially if you're encouraged to participate in some version of "American Church Idol"!!

But what is the meaning of "meaningful"??

/rant again!

12 posted on 05/27/2011 3:51:57 PM PDT by 88keys
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To: Ransomed

“like WASP threw raw meat”

Not sure that Blackie and the boys have stopped chucking it yet.


13 posted on 05/27/2011 5:13:32 PM PDT by Grunthor (CAIN/BACHMANN or BACHMANN/CAIN. Either way Obommunism is over.)
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To: Grunthor

Last I saw of him, he was on “that metal show”, in mid world tour. A rock survivor for sure.

Freegards


14 posted on 05/27/2011 6:34:13 PM PDT by Ransomed
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**The traditionalist German pontiff has called for an end to the use of pop-inspired religious music that many Catholic churches have used in different parts of the world to attract the faithful.**

How many bishops and music directors will display obedience to the Pope?


15 posted on 05/27/2011 7:36:00 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: getarope

You are always a Catholic. You Baptism lasts forever. Come back any time. We welcome you.


16 posted on 05/27/2011 7:40:02 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: getarope

You are always a Catholic. You Baptism lasts forever. Come back any time. We welcome you.


17 posted on 05/27/2011 7:42:30 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Darn few. Especially since our own archbishop continues to allow the folks at OCP to continue to send out their rancid tripe to at least seventy five percent of the parishes in the country.


18 posted on 05/27/2011 9:57:48 PM PDT by rogator
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To: GonzoII

I second that.

“Critics have said the use of modern music helps the Catholic faith remain relevant and vibrant for young people and that it is better to have guitars and tambourines during mass than empty churches.”

This really comes back to the traditional/modernist problem. The modernists in the Church, who feel that the Church must change in order to “keep up with the times,” disagree with the traditionalists, who feel that eternal truths are literally that, and need not change, by virtue of being eternal. The modernists think that by doing that which they perceive as updating, they can attract a larger parish population.

What they miss, whether by design or choice or what-have-you is that, if you teach people about the Mass, and what it means, understanding begets relevance, vibrancy, and reverence, and love. That goes for the music, too.

We’ve had forty-two years of Kumba-ya. Bring on the good stuff, provide good catechesis, and there won’t be empty churches.


19 posted on 05/28/2011 5:22:11 AM PDT by sayuncledave (A cruce salus)
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"provide good catechesis"

If people understand that we are going up to Calvary at Mass, maybe the guitars will fade away into oblivion.

20 posted on 05/28/2011 5:43:25 AM PDT by GonzoII (Quia tu es, Deus, fortitudo mea...Quare tristis es anima mea?)
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