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Catholic Sex Abuse Hearing Descends Into `Shut Up' Order and Charge of 'Abomination'
Courthouse News Service ^ | March 25, 2011 | Reuben Kramer

Posted on 03/26/2011 12:59:03 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg

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To: WPaCon
Shouldn’t the posters who couldn’t stand the heat from buccaneer stay out of the picture?

That would allow one person to control the thread just by being aggressive and rude and obnoxious, no matter who it is. That's not a good idea. It gives too much control and power to any one person.

I’m not so sure about Calvinists and members of assorted pseudoChristian religions, though.

Is that Calvinist bias? Or Protestant bias?

341 posted on 03/26/2011 11:01:58 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: WPaCon; Dr. Eckleburg
Dr. Eckleburg posted the article, she is expected to read and respond to any and all replies.

There is no anti-Catholic bias on the Religion Forum. If there were, there would not be more pro-Catholic RF articles than pro-any other belief.

Posters who are uncomfortable when their beliefs, deities or religious authorities are condemned or ridiculed should clearly IGNORE "open" RF threads and instead post to threads labeled "caucus" "ecumenical" "prayer" or "devotional."

342 posted on 03/26/2011 11:02:06 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: metmom
That would allow one person to control the thread just by being aggressive and rude and obnoxious, no matter who it is. That's not a good idea. It gives too much control and power to any one person.

That seems to be a good description of the current state of the religion forum.

Is that Calvinist bias? Or Protestant bias?

Both.

343 posted on 03/26/2011 11:06:20 PM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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To: Religion Moderator
There is no anti-Catholic bias on the Religion Forum.

Debatable to say the least.

If there were, there would not be more pro-Catholic RF articles than pro-any other belief.

That's just explained by the fact that there are more Catholics than anyone else, and the fact that the bias is tolerated.

Posters who are uncomfortable when their beliefs, deities or religious authorities are condemned or ridiculed should clearly IGNORE "open" RF threads and instead post to threads labeled "caucus" "ecumenical" "prayer" or "devotional."

People would have no problem with that advice if the open threads were truly unbiased.

344 posted on 03/26/2011 11:11:22 PM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
The only "evident" thing is that you are breaking the rules of the Religion Forum by mind-reading (and that you didn't spell-check.)

Appearances come from what you post, not just my particular point of view. I read no minds, only what you wrote, so kindly tell the witch hunt to stand down.

As for spell check: May God forgive us our transpositions as we forgive those who transposition against us.

345 posted on 03/26/2011 11:30:47 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: WPaCon
It is sad that there are those who think themselves conservative who will engage in a typical liberal argument form, blaming all for the actions of a few which are actually contrary to the doctrine of the group getting the blame.

What happened to personal responsibility?

346 posted on 03/26/2011 11:33:51 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

She thinks she is a European judge.


347 posted on 03/26/2011 11:39:16 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

These people love fighting battles for the left.

They’ll do anything to defame the Catholic Church.

It’s funny how they’d never trust newspapers like the New York Times, except when it comes to news about the Catholic Church.


348 posted on 03/26/2011 11:40:00 PM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

If anything it is what also afflicts so many Protestant clergyman, and not just the TV evangelists.


349 posted on 03/26/2011 11:43:28 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: metmom

Old Habits are hard to break.

I would like to add that I am not a mod either. I was kicked out of Mod School for sleeping in class, sort of “Mo Nods Means No Mods.”


350 posted on 03/27/2011 12:27:15 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
“You’ll notice when the pope came to Boston last year, all these American Cardinals from Rome came with the Pope on the plane — but not Cardinal Law,” said Father Walter Cuenin, who was among the group of Boston area priests who first called on Law to step down in response to the clergy abuse crisis. “He could not have been on that plane. So in some ways I think even in Rome they recognize it’s a delicate situation.”

Law should not be a cardinal. He should spend what remains of his useless life in prison. This fate is reasonable for anyone who did what he did.

351 posted on 03/27/2011 12:53:42 AM PDT by stevem
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To: metmom
Metmom, Catholics are not attacking the condemnation of evil behaviour, but the condemnation of the entire Church because of the unsanctioned actions of a few individuals.

There have been such evil behaviours far and wide, and even amongst the clergy--not limited to Catholics by any measure.

That does not make the actions of those individuals--especially as a breach of the faith they individually profess and the position they abuse--justifiable in any sense, nor does it mean that the entire body of the Catholic Church, throughout its history should be condemned by the actions of a few who abused their positions and the trust inherent in those.

There is no call for anyone to paint with a broad brush all adherents to the Catholic faith as if they were the ones who committed the acts in question, nor is such any more justifiable than the acts they decry. We all view those acts as abominable.

I think the conflict stems from blaming Catholicism and the Catholic Church for the actions of a few people, actions which are actually contrary to Catholic doctrine.

Until our Saviour returns, there will be evil afoot on this planet. It is up to us to individually choose whom we will serve.

352 posted on 03/27/2011 1:03:59 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: WPaCon
The only "evident" thing is that you are breaking the rules of the Religion Forum by mind-reading (and that you didn't spell-check.)

I guess when one stands back it is easier to see that the usual suspects (in the media) are attacking, through their weapon of molding perception and fomenting emotion, the last formidable impediment to their agenda of homosexual normalization and beyond.

The Catholic Church has stood steadfast against homosexuality, homosexual "marriage", and other perversions, (which makes it a target), against abortion (still a target), and against sin in general.

The perception the Media give is that the Church sanctioned the activities of a few, and that those activities are widespread and extensive, without the perspective of comparison to other entities out there. This plays upon the emotions of those who justly attack the evil acts with vigor, but who are convinced by the bias of media coverage to attack the institution as well, even though the acts are grossly in violation of Church doctrine.

Of course those who desire to pervert humanity will do their best to not only destroy the Church in the media, but to sway as many against it by reporting the actions of a few (who have abandoned their faith while claiming to serve it) as if they were the norm, rather than an aberration.

The results of the perversion of the news are sad to behold.

353 posted on 03/27/2011 1:39:41 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: WPaCon
I think there is an anti-Mormon bias on this website, too.

Sure there is...And there's an anti muzlim bias...And there's an anti Jehovah Witness bias as well...

And there's an anti Arian bias...And an anti Albigensian bias...And there's an AnnaBaptist bias...And there's an anti Nestorian bias...And there's an anti Calvin bias...And we get anti Jewish bias too...

How many of those camps do you fit into???

Quit whining and try to act as an adult...

354 posted on 03/27/2011 3:14:58 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Smokin' Joe
The Catholic Church has stood steadfast against homosexuality, homosexual "marriage", and other perversions, (which makes it a target), against abortion (still a target), and against sin in general.

The perception the Media give is that the Church sanctioned the activities of a few, and that those activities are widespread and extensive, without the perspective of comparison to other entities out there. This plays upon the emotions of those who justly attack the evil acts with vigor, but who are convinced by the bias of media coverage to attack the institution as well, even though the acts are grossly in violation of Church doctrine.

The rest of the non Catholic world doesn't believe you...

When your popes, cardinals, bishops and priests start aiding law inforcement agencies to prosecute these criminals instead of hiding and shuffling them around to commit more heinous crimes, we then may take what you say seriously...

355 posted on 03/27/2011 3:27:04 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool
The perception the Media give is that the Church sanctioned the activities of a few, and that those activities are widespread and extensive, without the perspective of comparison to other entities out there.

The rest of the non Catholic world doesn't believe you...

That would tend to support the above statement.

357 posted on 03/27/2011 5:01:02 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Thanks for this post and for #352 also.

You said it well.

Your words make common sense and a true sense of justice for all concerned—the need for right and just punishment for the guilty and also justice for all who are innocent, including priests who have remained faithful to their calling.

It’s over-the-top to paint all priests as homosexuals, as men who are not “normal”. That approach does take on the attributes of the kind of media smearing that is thrown at political conservatives. And it also “brands” all Catholic priests as predators, and all Catholics in the pews as defenders of predators. That is an injustice and a mirror of liberal tactics-—the smearing and the targeting of a particular people.


358 posted on 03/27/2011 5:28:54 AM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: WPaCon; Amityschild; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; HossB86; ...

Yup.

The bias has been from FR’s beginning. And it’s above the RM’s paygrade.

It used to be EVEN MORE in favor of RC’s. They even looked like they were going to whine and it seemed like the whole of FR bowed and scraped before them.

EVEN NOW, STILL:

RC’s have several Proddy sites 100% banned.

Proddys have NO RC sites banned.

RC’s fairly easily have threads locked, and even pulled MERELY BECAUSE THEY JANGLE RC SENSIBILITIES.

PRODDYS DON’T.

RC’s relentlessly whine, wail, throw dust in the air in a relentless demonstration of thin-skinned outrageousnesses over very petty and within-the-rule stuff. And the exceedingly patient RM typically tolerates such wayyyy past sensibility, imho.

Proddys don’t engage in such. Our skins seem to be genetically thicker for one. And it’s not our style for the other.

RC’s have a seemingly organized knack, strategy for catching the RM off duty and leaning on evidently RC fill-in mods to delete posts, lock threads, threaten Proddys etc.

Proddys wouldn’t think of such skull duggary.

Soooooooooooo, what’s that again about

POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRR RC’s suffering unduly at the hand of Proddys or the RM on FR?

What a brazenly outrageous falsehood claiming the opposite of reality!

What duplicitous hypocritical wimps.

Maybe they are running out of those bulbs of sugar tied into a white hankies as comfort blinkies.

Or maybe their latest personal shipments of Linus white hankies purportedly from heaven are late and they are suffering withdrawals.

Or maybe they just feel like their usual contrarian selves !!!!DEMANDING!!!! that FR’s Rel Forum become a Vatican office managed directly from Rome.

What a sweet pack of outrageously hypocritical rabid RELIGIONISTS.


359 posted on 03/27/2011 5:31:16 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: WPaCon

I’m curious . . .

At what point in the parochial school process do the students become willfully and utterly blind?


360 posted on 03/27/2011 5:34:01 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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