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Catholic Sex Abuse Hearing Descends Into `Shut Up' Order and Charge of 'Abomination'
Courthouse News Service ^ | March 25, 2011 | Reuben Kramer

Posted on 03/26/2011 12:59:03 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg

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To: buccaneer81

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321 posted on 03/26/2011 9:55:18 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: muawiyah
When it comes to people who want to have sex with children celibacy isn't an issue at all. They just want to do it and are attracted to activities where an adult can be placed in charge of children.

Right. Like the RCC priesthood.

If the RCC priesthood attracted men of substance, men of honor, men whose minds and hearts had been renewed by the Holy Spirit, the RCC wouldn't be in the tawdry position it has put itself into.

I have a friend who is a raging vegetarian. I asked her once why she didn't eat eggs, and her response was "I don't like eggs."

Apparently it's easy to give up what we don't really desire.

And so it is with men who are drawn to the RCC priesthood. They "give up" wives and children because they don't really want them.

They want something else. They want to be called "another Christ" (in both their personal as well as private lives, as Father Kenneth Baker told us) and to wear long skirts and have people kneel to them and kiss their rings.

Rome has been content with that situation for centuries. If it weren't for all this pesky publicity, nothing would change.

322 posted on 03/26/2011 9:56:21 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Do not post to a Freeper who has been instructed to leave the thread.


324 posted on 03/26/2011 9:59:58 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

I’m sorry. I didn’t see that.


325 posted on 03/26/2011 10:03:12 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Religion Moderator; Alex Murphy
I’m not Alex Murphy.

Right now or always?

326 posted on 03/26/2011 10:14:19 PM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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To: WPaCon; Alex Murphy

Alex Murphy is not now and has never been a Free Republic Religion Moderator.


327 posted on 03/26/2011 10:16:36 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

Was 275 the cause of buccaneer being told to leave the thread?


328 posted on 03/26/2011 10:26:56 PM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; WPaCon

1Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

They made celibacy of their priests madatory 1123 A.D

Lateran Council
Canons 3 and 11 forbid priests, deacons, subdeacons, and monks to marry or to have concubines; it is also forbidden them to keep in their houses any women other than those sanctioned by the ancient canons. Marriages of clerics are null pleno jure, and those who have contracted them are subject to penance.

It goes totally against God’s word but I guess if you want to keep wealth and power in an organization you don’t want to have it willed to dependents.

1Timothy 3:1 This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
:3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
:4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
:5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
:6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
:7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
:8 Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre;
:9 Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience.
:10 And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless.
:11 Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things.
:12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.
:13 For they that have used the office of a deacon well purchase to themselves a good degree, and great boldness in the faith which is in Christ Jesus.

When you blatantly go against God’s word you can expect plenty of rift raft and false doctrines coming in.

1Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;


329 posted on 03/26/2011 10:27:33 PM PDT by Lera
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To: WPaCon

I instruct posters to leave the thread when they ignore my warnings and/or when they are too upset (thin-skinned) to continue in a particular discussion.


330 posted on 03/26/2011 10:30:42 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

Let’s just say I’ve seen many questionable decisions in the past about which freeper gets booted off the thread.

By some wild coincidence, each time the freeper was questionably booted of a thread, he/she was Catholic.


331 posted on 03/26/2011 10:38:25 PM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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To: Religion Moderator; Dr. Eckleburg; Alex Murphy

You know, just an observation here.

IIRC, FReepers in the past have asked different mods for their identities and the mods have not complied. I understand that.

So it appears to me that the new strategy is to pick a target FReeper name and harangue you as the mod until you get exasperated tell them that you’re not whoever they picked, just like as has happened just now.

The problem is, sometime they are going to pick the name of who you are and you’ll be stuck either having to admit that they’re right, lie and deny it, or refuse to answer, which can easily be construed as an admission of fact.

What I see happening here is essentially that some people are trying to find out your identity by the process of elimination. It takes longer, but patience will win out. They’ve already eliminated two possibilities.


332 posted on 03/26/2011 10:41:00 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
lie and deny it

Never!!!

333 posted on 03/26/2011 10:42:32 PM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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To: WPaCon
They just need more of this.....


334 posted on 03/26/2011 10:43:17 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: WPaCon; Religion Moderator

I wouldn’t ever expect the RM to lie and deny it.

I mentioned it only as an option.

That then leaves admitting that they’re right or maintaining silence which can be construed as an admission of fact. If the RM denies it several times and then suddenly clams up, that will look suspicious.


335 posted on 03/26/2011 10:46:05 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: WPaCon
Current events drive the heat factor on the Religion Forum.

You've only been a Freeper for a month or so. If you had been here back in the FLDS scandal or Romney's failed campaign, you might think the Mormons were the only ones being told to leave threads.

The Catholic Church has suffered some lousy news recently which no doubt has become fodder for the antis as the FLDS scandal was for those antis.

Next time maybe the Lutherans will be on the receiving end of bad news.

Posters who can't handle the heat need to stay out of the kitchen.

336 posted on 03/26/2011 10:48:17 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: metmom
Since we're doing pictures...


337 posted on 03/26/2011 10:49:12 PM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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To: metmom; Alex Murphy

I wouldn’t answer under normal circumstances. But this “Alex Murphy is the RM” gossip has been going on for years.


338 posted on 03/26/2011 10:50:21 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

Shouldn’t the posters who couldn’t stand the heat from buccaneer stay out of the picture?

I believe the bias has been going on for quite a while.

I think there is an anti-Mormon bias on this website, too.

Maybe Lutherans can be unfairly picked on.

I’m not so sure about Calvinists and members of assorted pseudoChristian religions, though.


339 posted on 03/26/2011 10:52:43 PM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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To: Religion Moderator

I really don’t see why it’s relevant who you are. You’re modding is pretty balanced. I’ve seen you instruct non-Catholics to leave threads.

I suppose if they found out who you were, they would accuse you of bias if you weren’t Catholic. But it seems to happen anyway, so I don’t see then what difference it makes whether they know or not. Nothing would change.


340 posted on 03/26/2011 10:58:31 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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