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To: Mad Dawg
Sure from OUR temporal point of view, the conception of Mary was 'before' all the "work" of the Incarnate Christ. But to the One to whom all times are "Now", what does "before" mean?

Who said all times are 'Now' to God...Did he create the world today??? Was the crucifixion today??? How about the resurrection??? Today???

Deu 2:10 The Emims dwelt therein in times past, a people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims;
Deu 2:11 Which also were accounted giants, as the Anakims; but the Moabites call them Emims.

Do we still have giants today???

How many times has God said thou shalt (future) or thous hast (past)???

Certainly Eternity is timeless but there is no indication that God does not do things in 'time'...I'm sure 'before' means to God the same as it means to us...

And, if the Wedding that makes the church the Bride had taken place in the past (which it hasn't, it's future), there's no place for future so called Christians to be in the Wedding...No current Bride of Christ...

There was no 'ripple' effect for those in prison (Abraham's Bosom)...Jesus had to go there and witness to those folks personally...

Not all those in heaven will be the Bride of Christ...The parables show us that there will be friends and guests at the Wedding as well as the Bride and Groom...

What happened before the Cross is not the same that happens after the Cross...

161 posted on 03/21/2011 4:58:02 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool
Who said all times are 'Now' to God...Did he create the world today??? Was the crucifixion today??? How about the resurrection??? Today???

Uncommon sense. Evidently uncommon, that is.

The proposition (NOT the argument) is: either God has a cause or God is eternal, that is, outside of time and not subject to it (and therefore all times are 'now' to Him).

184 posted on 03/22/2011 9:18:04 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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