John Paul the Great and the Denver World Youth Day "Miracle"

johnpaulmoments.com ^ | Randall J. Meissen

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When the Vatican announced that World Youth Day would be held in Denver in 1993, many news experts predicted that the event would be a failure. The United States, they said, was different than countries like Poland and Argentina, where previous World Youth Days had met great success. The United States, they claimed, lacked an entrenched tradition of Catholic pilgrimage, the traveling distances required to assemble a large gathering from across the country were too large, and most importantly American young people would simply be uninterested in the pope or his message.

On August 10, 1993, stunned reporters crumpled their pre-written article drafts while John Paul II started a new page in history.

As the pope’s helicopter circled over mile high stadium in Denver just prior to the opening ceremony, it was buffeted by forceful waves of applause from the gathered crowd of young people, a crowd that would eventually swell to the number of a half-million...

In retrospect, world youth day in Denver was a turning point for the Catholic Church in America. In answer to the pope’s challenge to go forth and spread the gospel, thousands of initiatives at the local and diocesan level sprang up in the subsequent months and years. From Denver, the pope had launched what he termed “the New Evangelization”.

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The original article contains a John Paul II quote from Denver.

[FroggyTheGremlim]

I am uncomfortable with the appelation “The Great” as applied to the past pope.

I am not certain, but I think he would be uncomfortable called “The Great.”

I think “John Paul II The Beloved” is much more appropriate.

[hinckley buzzard]

Not for nothing he is known to millions now as "John Paul the Great." He was a thousand year phenomenon.

[RnMomof7]

Luk 6:26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.

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Agreed.

Someone should have remembered the “Catholic Caucus” tag on this if they didn’t want a dose of truth.

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John Paul II was widely known for his fanatical devotion to Mary, almost to the eclipse of the Savior.

[rbmillerjr]

I believe that JPII was spoken ill of enough by the Satanists, Progressives, Secularists and Media, that Luke 6:26 definitely didn’t apply to JPII, lol.

...and thanks for your contribution along with the others, Rn

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Question: What was the ‘miracle?’

[RnMomof7]

I believe that JPII was spoken ill of enough by the Satanists, Progressives, Secularists and Media, that Luke 6:26 definitely didn’t apply to JPII, lol.

Do you have any evidence of that ? The truth is the entire world of unregenerates morned his passing ...

Jhn 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

[agere_contra]

Liberals hated him, and revile his memory.

Good enough for me.

[rbmillerjr]

The Catholic Church is always attacked, and thus the Pope.

He stressed Life and dared call abortion a sin...of course he was attacked throughout his leading Christ’s Church.

BTW, it’s “mourned”, not morned.

[RnMomof7]

Really?? CNN loved him so did MSNBC ...

http://articles.cnn.com/2005-04-02/world/pope.dies_1_archbishop-leonardo-sandri-pontiff-vatican-spokesman-joaquin-navarro-valls?_s=PM:WORLD

NBC sells a tape of his life

The NYT said this

“The world has lost a champion of human freedom and a good and faithful servant of God has been called home,” President Bush said at the White House. “Pope John Paul II was himself an inspiration to millions of Americans and to so many more throughout the world.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/02/international/europe/02cnd-rome.html

The world loved him.

They crucified Christ ..and killed His disciples..they did not bow to them or kiss their rings.. or publish wonderful stories about Him

Jhn 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

Perhaps it is time to look to Christ and not a man

[Campion]

The NYT said this

“The world has lost a champion of human freedom and a good and faithful servant of God has been called home,” President Bush said at the White House. “Pope John Paul II was himself an inspiration to millions of Americans and to so many more throughout the world.”

Do you even read your own posts? That's the NYT reporting what George Bush said. I guess Dubya must be one of the "unregenerates" you were talking about.

Whom don't you judge and condemn? Anyone?

[RnMomof7]

So is he YOUR Pope??

As for GWB ..I think he talked a good evangelical talk but never walked the walk..just as he talked a good conservative view but never walked that walk..

[LadyDoc]

uh, if you check, the communists arranged for a hit man to shoot him. Is that serious enough?

And the entrenched one world order types in the curia tried for years to ignore him or they went to the press to insist he needed to retire, or that he was anti woman, or that no one listened to him.

[verdugo]

95% of Catholics in Europe don't even go to mass. In Brazil, the largest Catholic country in the world, 93% don't go. John Paul II completed the hollowing out of the Church. He is John Paul the Great, to dumb down feelings oriented (and reasoning shut off) Catholics who still go to mass in the effeminate controlled church.

John Paul II presided over the destruction of all that was Catholic in the Catholic Church. He will one day in the future, be excommunicated like Pope HonoriusI was excommunicated 45 years after he died.

Pope John Paul II was loved by all the cafeteria Catholics, whom he allowed to do whatever they wanted to: the Charismatics, the effeminates, Neocatechumenal Way, the Weaklands & Mahoneys & Bernardines, etc. etc.

[rbmillerjr]

LOL...how would you know since you are not a Catholic?

[Celtic Cross]

If you’re not a Catholic, then why is this an issue for you?

[verdugo]

If I was not Catholic I would not give a hoot about the pope. Have you ever heard of Pope Honorius I, who was excommunicated 45 years after he died? What do you know about John Paul II? Likely only what you read in your parish bulletin, EWTN, or the secular news. Like a communist who only reads Pravda, you'll never know what's really going on. Unless of course, you don't want to know.

What is common news to any traditionalist Catholic, is a revelation to the average Joe in the Novus Ordo pew. Here's one for you:

La Republica, February 5, 1993

ECUMENISM : POPE DIALOGUES WITH VOODOO SUPREME HIGH "PRIEST"GUEDEGUE

"Two monarchs, head to head, "One is John Paul II, the true Pope, head of the universal Catholic Church .... who traveled from the Vatican to Africa. The other is the 'high priest' Guedegue, the supreme head of Voodoo, which in Benin counts a quarter of the population, and the one who represents the spiritual point of reference for all the followers of the world of that religion of the Devil.

"At the meeting with the Pontiff, Guedegue was accompanied by a hundred 'priests' all proudly garbed in traditional 'vestments' and with their faces marked by long scars - a vestige of their initiations into the voodoo cult. The Pope received them with great respect and did not lose the opportunity to talk about dialogue, constructive relationships, and religious liberty."

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JPII Praises Voodoo Worship

Meeting with Guedegue of Benin, the Supreme Voodoo high-priest of the World, on February 4, 1993 during his visit to Benin, John Paul II gives the rationale to justify voodoo worship according to the principles of Vatican II.

From: John Paull II, Greeting to a Voodoo high-priest of Benin, published under the title "La libertà religiosa è un diritto inalienabile," in L'Osservatore Romano, February 6, 1993, p. 4:

Dear friends,

I am pleased to have this occasion to meet you, and I very cordially greet you. As you know, I came to Benin principally to visit with the Catholic community, to encourage it and confirm it in the faith. However, I have always thought that contact with persons who belong to other religious traditions is an important part of my ministry.

Indeed, the Catholic Church is favorable to dialogue: dialogue with Christians of other churches and ecclesial communities, dialogue with believers of other spiritual families, and dialogue even with those who do not profess any religion. The Church establishes positive and constructive relations with persons and human groups of other creeds for a reciprocal enrichment.

Vatican Council II …. recognized that there are truth and good, seeds of the Word, in the various religious traditions. …

These provide the foundations for a fruitful dialogue, as the Apostle Paul said to the first Christians: “Everything that is true, noble, just, pure, amiable, honorable, whatever is virtuous and deserves praise, let all these things be the object of your thinking.” From this comes our approach of respect [toward you]: respect for true values wherever they are, and overall respect for the man who looks to live these values that help him set aside fear.

You are strongly attached to the traditions which your ancestors transmitted to you. It is legitimate to recognize the ancestors who transmitted to you the sense of the sacral, faith in a one and good god, your tastes for celebrations, and consideration for moral life and harmony in society.

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La Documentation Catholique, Dec. 7, 1986.

Voodoo priests were among the guests of John Paul II at the panreligious meeting of Assisi. They were accorded the same treatment as the other confessions and were given a place to carry out their worship.

[Lorica]

I looked for an independent transcript of your post, and interestingly enough, the choices that came up on google were overwhelmingly from sites like Traditio and...Jesus-is-Lord. What an odd juxtaposition... but then again, maybe not.