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To: RobRoy

You do grasp the meaning of ‘full of grace?’


74 posted on 02/10/2011 9:22:59 AM PST by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: BenKenobi

>>You do grasp the meaning of ‘full of grace?’<<

Yes. Do grasp the meaning of “grace”?

I think the challenge so many of us are having here is that we are getting into the “meat” of scripture and carefully attempting to parse words. And words are just symbols. For example, the word “red” means diiferent things to different people. A person that has to wash fire engines thinks of red differently than a person who works in an operating room. Not only do they see different shades of the color as their primary paradigm, but also there are subtle perceptual differences because of what the color actually means: One is a protective and attractive shiny coating of a vehicle, while the other is the live giving fluid in most animals, and seeing it exposed brings different emotions.

It is a rather lame example, but good enough for what I am trying to say here. And it is this: The meaning we choose to give what appears to be fairly straightforward scripture is often based on our general perception of God. Sometimes that perception is so warped that we can warp scripture pretty effectively just to support deeper warped views of God. A good example would be Homosexual pastors saying that when the bible says it is wrong for men to lust after men, that what the bible really means is it is wrong for HETEROSEXUAL men to lust after other men. Yeah, it sounds incredibly deluded.

Which is how the “ever virgin Mary” sounds to me. But for some, she HAS TO BE ever-virgin or a lot of their deeper beliefs collapse, as with the homosexual example.

A lot of protestants have the same problem with pre-tribulation rapture. I used to be one of them until I read the bible with an open mind. However, I see an open mind as described by G. K. Chesterton:

“The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.”


117 posted on 02/10/2011 10:16:54 AM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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