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How The Reformation Changed The Church
frontline.org ^ | Dr. Peter Hammond

Posted on 02/05/2011 11:07:42 AM PST by Gamecock

In the book of Judges we read about another generation which arose, which knew neither the Lord nor what He had done (Judges 2:10). Today, it appears that a generation has arisen, which like Israel under the Judges, knows little of either the Lord nor of what He did during the time of the Protestant exodus and the struggles in the wilderness, which followed in the 16th and 17th century. Sometimes this is from a cowardly dislike of controversy and confrontation. But few people seem to understand either the evils from which the Reformation delivered us or the blessings which the Reformation won for us.

The Reformation delivered the Church from gross ignorance and spiritual darkness The church, before the Reformation, was a church without the Bible. And a church without a Bible is as useless as a lighthouse without light, a candlestick without a candle, or a motor vehicle without an engine. The priests and people knew scarcely anything about God’s Word or the way of salvation in Christ.

Bishop J.C. Ryle described the situation: “The immense majority of the clergy did little more than say masses and offer up pretended sacrifices, repeat Latin prayers and chant Latin hymns (which of course most of the people could not understand), hear confessions, grant absolutions, give extreme unction, and take money to get dead people out of purgatory.”

Bishop Latimer observed: “When the devil gets influence in a church, up go candles and down goes preaching.”

Quarterly sermons (that is, once every three months) were prescribed to the clergy, but not insisted upon. Latimer noted that while the mass was never left unsaid for a single Sunday, sermons might be omitted for 20 Sundays in succession. Indeed, to preach much was to incur the suspicion of being a heretic.

Bishop Hooper, who along with Bishop Latimer was burned alive at the stake under Queen Mary, did a survey in 1551 and found that out of 311 clergy in his Diocese, 168 were unable to repeat the Ten Commandments, 31 of those 168 could not even say in which part of the Scripture the Ten Commandments were to be found, 40 could not tell where the Lord’s Prayer was written, and 31 of the 40 did not even know who the author of the Lord’s Prayer was!

Bishop Ryle summarized the situation: “Before the Reformation was a religion without knowledge, without faith and without lively hope – a religion without justification, regeneration and sanctification – a religion without any clear views of Christ and the Holy Ghost. Except in rare instances, it was little better than an organized system of Mary worship, saint worship, image worship, relic worship, pilgrimages, alms giving, formalism, ceremonialism, processions, penances, absolutions, masses and blind obedience to the priests. It was a huge higgledy-piggledy of ignorance and idolatry, and serving an unknown God by deputy. The only practical result was that the priests took the people’s money and undertook to secure their salvation. And the people flattered themselves that the more they gave to the priests, the more sure they were to go to Heaven!”

The Reformation delivered the church from childish superstitions The Roman Catholic church, before the Reformation, taught its members to seek spiritual benefit from so-called relics of dead saints and to treat them with divine honor. Calvin’s “Inventory of Relics” and Hobart Seymour’s “Pilgrimage to Rome” catalog some of the ludicrous swindles which were perpetrated by the church of Rome. This included pieces of wood “of the true cross” enough to load a large ship, thorns professing to be part of the Saviour’s crown of thorns, enough to make a huge faggot, at least 14 nails said to have been used at the Crucifixion, four spearheads – each purporting to be the one which pierced our Lord’s side, at least three seamless coats of Christ, for which the soldiers cast lots, Saint James’s hand, bones of Mary Magdalene, toenails from Saint Edmund, some bread, purported to have been used by Christ at the Last Supper, a girdle of the Virgin Mary and milk from the Virgin Mary! The Royal Commissioners of Henry VIII examined a vial at the Abbey in Gloucestershire, which was said to contain the blood of Christ! The Commissioners found that it contained the blood of a duck.

There were literally thousands of profane and vile inventions, fabrications and deceptions, which Roman priests imposed on the people before the Reformation. They must have known that they were deceiving the people, yet they persisted in presenting these lies and requiring that the ignorant laity believe them. Sometimes the priests induced dying sinners to give vast tracts of lands to abbeys and monasteries, in order to atone for their bad lives. In one way or another, they were continually separating sinners from their money and accumulating property and wealth in the hands of the Roman church.

The power of the priests was practically despotic and was used for every purpose except the advancement of the Christian faith. It seemed that their primary object was power. To them confession had to be made. Without their absolution and extreme unction no professing Christian could be saved. Without their masses no soul could be redeemed from purgatory. In short, they were, to all intents and purposes, the mediators between Christ and man. To please and honor the Roman church was a devout Christian’s first duty. To injure them was the greatest of sins. One of the indulgences issued in 1498, with the authority of the Pope, claimed: “To absolve people from usury, theft, manslaughter, fornication and all crime whatsoever, except smiting the clergy and conspiring against the Pope!”

A starving man in a famine may be reduced to eating rats and rubbish, rather than die of hunger. Similarly, a conscience-stricken soul, deprived of God’s Word, should not be judged too harshly by us, if they struggled to find comfort in the most debasing superstition. However, we must never forget that it was from such superstitions which the Reformation delivered us.

The Reformation delivered the church from blatant immorality Before the Reformation, the lives of the clergy were simply scandalous. There were brothels in the Vatican. The Popes, Cardinals and Bishops openly consorted with prostitutes and engaged in the most debauched orgies. The local priests became notorious for gluttony, drunkenness and gambling. As Bishop Ryle pointed out: “To expect the huge roots of ignorance and superstition, which filled our land, to bear any but corrupt fruit, would be unreasonable and absurd.”

Contemporary art depicted friars as foxes preaching with the neck of a stolen goose peeping out of the hood behind; as wolves giving absolution, with the sheep partly concealed under their cloaks; or as apes sitting on a sick man’s bed with a crucifix in one hand and with the other hand in the suffering person’s pocket! Such public contempt in art reflects the scorn with which the clergy were held at the time.

Bishop Ryle pointed out: “But the blackest spot on the character of our pre-Reformation clergy in England is one of which it is painful to speak … their horrible contempt of the 7th Commandment … the consequences of shutting up herds of men and women in the prime of life, in monasteries and nunneries, were such that I will not defile my paper by dwelling upon them … if ever there was a plausible theory weighed in the balance and found utterly wanting, it is the favorite theory that celibacy and monasticism promote holiness … monasteries and nunneries were frequently sinks of iniquity.”

The report of the Royal Commissioners, under Henry VIII, declared: “That manifest sin, vicious, carnal and abominable living, is daily used and committed in abbeys, priories, and other religious houses of monks, cannons and nuns, and that albeit many continual visitations have been had, by the space of 200 years or more, for an honest and charitable reformation of such unthrifty, carnal and abominable living, yet that nevertheless, little or none amendment was hitherto had, but that their vicious living shamefully increased and augmented.”

It was observed that: “There is no surer recipe for promoting immorality than fullness of bread and abundance of idleness.” (Ezekiel 16:49) It is from such superstition, corruption, immorality, ignorance and idolatry that the Reformation freed the church.

The Reformation gave the church back the Bible In 1519, six men and a woman were burned at Coventry for teaching their children the Ten Commandments, the Lord’s Prayer and the Apostle’s Creed in English. Nothing seems to have alarmed and enraged the Roman priesthood as much as the spread of Bibles in the local language. It was for the crime of translating the Bible into English that the Reformer, William Tyndale, was burned at the stake. Of all the aspects which combined to make up the Reformation, no other aspect received such bitter opposition as the translation and circulation of the Scriptures. The translation of the Bible struck a blow at the root of the whole Roman Catholic system. The Bible, as the only rule of faith and conduct, freely available in the local languages, was a threat to all the superstitions and abuses of the medieval Roman popery. With the Bible in every parish church, every thoughtful man soon saw that the religion of the priests had no basis in Holy Scripture.

The Reformation opened the road to the throne of Grace The way of salvation had become blocked up and made impassible by heaps of superstitious rubble. “He who desired to obtain forgiveness had to seek it through a jungle of priests, saints, Mary worship, masses, penances, confession, absolution and the like, so that there might as well have been no throne of Grace at all.” J.C. Ryle

The Reformers hacked their way through this huge jungle of papal obstruction and cleared the way for every heavy-laden sinner to go straight to the Lord Jesus Christ for remission of sins.

The Reformation restored Biblical simplicity to worship Before the Reformation, the laity were only present at church services as passive, ignorant spectators. The elaborate, theatrical presentations of the sacraments were a solemn farce because the ceremonies and prayers were in Latin. The laity could bring their bodies to the services, but their minds, understanding, reason and spirit could take no part at all. For this reason, the 24th Article of the Church of England declared: “It is a thing totally repugnant to the Word of God and the custom of the primitive church to have public prayer in the church or to minister the sacraments in a tongue not understood of the people.”

The Reformation gave a Biblical understanding of the office of a minister Before the Reformation, the concept of the Christian ministry was sacerdotal. That is – it was understood that every clergyman was a sacrificing priest. The clergy were understood to hold the keys of Heaven and to be practically the mediators between God and man.

The Reformers brought the office of the clergy down to its Scriptural level. They stripped it entirely of any sacerdotal character. They cast out the words “sacrifice” and “altar”. They taught that the clergy were pastors, ambassadors, messengers, witnesses, evangelists, teachers and ministers of the Word and sacraments. The Reformers taught that the chief business of every Christian minister is to preach the Word and to be diligent in prayer and the reading of the Scriptures. The Reformers taught the immense superiority of the pulpit to the confessional. For this reason, where the altar used to be, the Lord’s table was placed with an open Bible, or a pulpit, showing the centrality of God’s Word in the worship of Protestant churches.

The Reformation restored a Biblical understanding of holiness Before the Reformation, it was believed that a monastic life and vows of celibacy were the only ways to escape sin and to attain sanctification. Multitudes of men and women poured into the monasteries and convents under the vain idea that this would please God and ensure their eternal salvation.

The Reformers struck at the root of this fallacy by establishing the great Scriptural principle that true religion was not to be found in retiring into convents and monasteries and fleeing from the difficulties of daily life, but in manfully facing up to our difficulties and doing our duty diligently - in every position to which God calls us. It is not by running away from the world, that we fulfill God’s call, but by courageously resisting the devil, the flesh and the world and overcoming them in daily life. That is how true holiness is to be exhibited. For this reason, the Reformers dissolved the monasteries and convents in their areas and freed the inmates to be reintegrated into normal life.

The Reformers also ordered that the Ten Commandments be set up in every parish church and taught to every child, and that our duty towards God and our neighbor be set forth in the Catechism. They insisted that you cannot become saints by shirking your duties in society.

A Heritage of Faith and Freedom We must continually thank God for the Reformation. It lit the flames of knowledge and freedom which we must ensure are never allowed to be extinguished or to grow dim. We need to continually remember that the Reformation was won for us by the blood of many tens of thousands of martyrs. It was not only by their preaching and praying, and writing and legislation, but by their sacrifices that our religious liberty, freedom of conscience and Christian heritage was won.

The Reformation found church members steeped in ignorance and left them in possession of knowledge. It found them without Bibles and left them with the Bible in every parish. It found them in darkness and left them in light. It found them bound in fear and left them enjoying the liberty and peace which only Christ can give. It found them strangers to the blood of Christ’s atonement, to faith, grace and holiness and left them with the key of all those blessings in their hands. It found them blind and left them with spiritual eyes to see. It found them slaves to superstition and set them free to serve Christ.

As Bishop Ryle declared: “Are we to return to a church which boasts that she is infallible and never changes – to a church which has never repented her pre-Reformation superstitions and abominations – to a church which has never confessed and abjured her countless corruptions? Are we to go back to gross ignorance of true religion? Shame on us, I say, if we entertain the idea for a moment! Let the Israelite return to Egypt, if he will. Let the prodigal go back to his husks among the swine. Let the dog return to his vomit. But let no Englishman with brains in his head, ever listen to the idea of exchanging Protestantism for Popery, or returning to the bondage of the church of Rome. No, indeed! … God forbid! The man who counsels such base apostasy and suicidal folly, must be judicially blind. The iron collar has been broken; let us not put it on again. The prison has been thrown open; let us not resume the yoke and return to our chains … Let us not go back to ignorance, superstition, priestcraft and immorality.”

If you have a Bible in your own language, and enjoy to read and study God’s Word, never forget that you owe that Bible to the Reformation. Brave men and women died that you could have the freedom to delight in God’s Word.

If you know the joy of sins forgiven and new life in Christ, if you are walking by faith and enjoying peace with God, never forget that you owe this priceless privilege to the Reformation.

If you enjoy Church services, Scripture choruses, Hymns, prayers and sermons in your own language, remember that for this you are also indebted to the Reformation.

If you appreciate the Biblical and practical sermons of your pastor, and his counsel, never forget that for this you are indebted to the Reformation. The Reformation is the source of many blessings. We need to ask if we are on the side of the Reformers, or of those who burned them and the Bible. “… Contend earnestly for the Faith which was once for all delivered to the saints.” Jude 3


TOPICS: General Discusssion; History; Mainline Protestant
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To: bkaycee

What is the source for that paragraph?


1,341 posted on 02/08/2011 7:07:54 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: boatbums
"You forgot, I was Catholic..."

The one thing I see in so many failed Catholics is how poorly, or at least superficially catechized they were.

1,342 posted on 02/08/2011 7:16:16 PM PST by Natural Law (As a Catholic I know I am held to a higher standard (but it's worth it).)
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To: Cronos; caww
Please can you tell me where Jesus said: ”Be ye submissive one to the other” -- I can't recall the exact statement by Jesus, it clouds with 1 Peter and epistles by Paul. In any case, Paul wrote this -- does any group follow this completely? If any group says it follows the NT completely and does not follow these lines, then they are not following the NT completely

If I may, caww is correct we are told in Ephesians 5:20-21 "Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ: submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.". I also note husbands are commanded to love their wives as Christ loved the church and gave himself for it (v.25), but nowhere are wives commanded to love their husbands - curious that :o).

There are some churches today that are so super-careful to obey all that Scripture says, that they forbid women to cut their hair and some even say it is a sin for a woman to wear slacks. Men also must wear their hair short - so as not to appear like a woman. Like I said, I believe there were cultural as well as legalistic reasons back then that are spoken of in these contested verses about a woman's place in the church. Rightly dividing the Word of God means being aware of the context and background of particular writings. Scripture still IS the ultimate authority for doctrines of the faith.

The attempt to hold the sola scriptura adherent's feet to the fire by picking out places - out of context and out of cultural background - to try and demonstrate that we do NOT really believe in what we say, is disingenuous. It is also another example of someone demonstrating a misunderstanding of what the term even means.

1,343 posted on 02/08/2011 7:19:48 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

In this prayer, Saint Augustine of Hippo (354-430) illustrates both Christian reverence for the Mother of God and the proper understanding of intercessory prayer. We pray to the Blessed Virgin so that she might present our prayers to God and obtain forgiveness from Him for our sins.

Prayer of Saint Augustine to the Blessed Virgin
O blessed Virgin Mary, who can worthily repay thee thy just dues of praise and thanksgiving, thou who by the wondrous assent of thy will didst rescue a fallen world? What songs of praise can our weak human nature recite in thy honor, since it is by thy intervention alone that it has found the way to restoration. Accept, then, such poor thanks as we have here to offer, though they be unequal to thy merits; and receiving our vows, obtain by thy prayers the remission of our offenses. Carry thou our prayers within the sanctuary of the heavenly audience, and bring forth from it the antidote of our reconciliation. May the sins we bring before Almighty God through thee, become pardonable through thee; may what we ask for with sure confidence, through thee be granted. Take our offering, grant us our requests, obtain pardon for what we fear, for thou art the sole hope of sinners. Through thee we hope for the remission of our sins, and in thee, O blessed Lady, is our hope of reward. Holy Mary, succour the miserable, help the fainthearted, comfort the sorrowful, pray for thy people, plead for the clergy, intercede for all women consecrated to God; may all who keep thy holy commemoration feel now thy help and protection. Be thou ever ready to assist us when we pray, and bring back to us the answers to our prayers. Make it thy continual care to pray for the people of God, thou who, blessed by God, didst merit to bear the Redeemer of the world, who liveth and reigneth, world without end. Amen.

this is from about.com

does that make your head explode that your hero St Augustine prayed to Mary?
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1,344 posted on 02/08/2011 7:20:02 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: wmfights
I am a Baptist and look at those Christian Churches that held to most Baptistic principals as part of my heritage. They didn't fair to well under any state church.

Considering what happened to Baptists under Calvinists in previous centuries it's amazing to me that so many that I have known over the years are Calvinist in their theology to one degree or other.
1,345 posted on 02/08/2011 7:21:42 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Natural Law; boatbums; metmom

amen, the ones who claim to have been Catholic at one point, seem to know very little what the Faith actually is. i was suspicious at first that they are just saying they were Catholic, for credibility purposes, but i am sure some must have been.


1,346 posted on 02/08/2011 7:23:03 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

1) Nobody’s perfect.

2) Attributing a quote to “about.com” without any link is meaningless. Where is this prayer from and when was Augustine supposed to have written it? We know the young Augustine was a great deal less mature in his faith that the older Augustine.

3) Augustine’s not “my hero.” You must have me confused with Roman Catholics who “venerate” other human beings when Christ alone is worthy of praise.


1,347 posted on 02/08/2011 7:27:44 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Gamecock
The Reformation delivered the Church from gross ignorance and spiritual darkness

...into highly specific ignorance and continued spiritual darkness, as seen in the following quotes:
"The devil and wicked men are so held in on every side with the hand of God, that they cannot conceive, or contrive, or execute any mischief, any farther than God himself doth not permit only, but command. Nor are they only held in fetters, but compelled also, as with a bridle, to perform obedience to those commands." (Calv. Inst., b. 1, c. 17, s. 11.)

"...when God makes angels or men sin, he does not sin himself, because he does not break any law. For God is under no law, and therefore cannot sin." (Zuinglius in Serm. de Provid., c. 5, 6.)

1,348 posted on 02/08/2011 7:28:26 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Cronos; smvoice

1,349 posted on 02/08/2011 7:35:08 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

nobody’s perfect?

according to 1 Corinthians 6:9, St Augustine is in hell because he was an idolater!

boy, believe in predestination, and you are ready to give a pass to idolaters!!


1,350 posted on 02/08/2011 7:35:42 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: aruanan
Considering what happened to Baptists under Calvinists in previous centuries it's amazing to me that so many that I have known over the years are Calvinist in their theology to one degree or other.

He had a great many things right. TULIP being the easiest way to highlight.

If we were to point fingers the Protestant persecution of Christians is ugly, but really minor when compared with the persecution perpetuated by the church they broke from. In the end this bloody transformational period led to a separation of church and state which has been a blessing for Born Again Christians in the west.

1,351 posted on 02/08/2011 7:37:20 PM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights; CynicalBear
But that Scriptural pattern doesn't preclude infants receiving that same grace. We know from John the Baptist that even infants can receive the grace of God and be saved.

Please tell me you're not saying Calvin taught that babies who die without being baptized don't go to Heaven?

1,352 posted on 02/08/2011 7:39:40 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
so i guess St Augustine was guilty of idolatry

All men are guilty of idolatry at one time or another. It's built into the fallen nature of men.

From Calvin...

"Every one of us is, from his mother's womb, expert at inventing idols." (Acts II:413)


"Though all men do not worship the same idols, they are all nevertheless in bondage to idolatry." (Romans 338)


1,353 posted on 02/08/2011 7:41:33 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: boatbums

Of course you “may”, and that anytime Boatbums.

I noted along time ago husbands are to “love” thier wives....however woman are to “respect” their husbands.
Interesting as there is a difference. I have noted though, that if a woman does not respect her husband it is a difficult thing to love him...so it is understandable why the instruction.


1,354 posted on 02/08/2011 7:42:06 PM PST by caww
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To: boatbums; caww

pwnd.....


1,355 posted on 02/08/2011 7:44:48 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights; CynicalBear

Please tell me you’re not saying Calvin taught that babies who die without being baptized don’t go to Heaven?

I’m not asking this to be contentious, but to clarify that ALL people who are unable to believe in Christ because of age or disability are under God’s grace and will be in Heaven with him and that the act of water baptism is not what saves anyone. It is by grace through faith alone in Jesus Christ alone.


1,356 posted on 02/08/2011 7:47:08 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

you have greater devotion to Calvin than i have ever witnessed any Catholic have to any saint.

glad to see you count St Augustine among the elect. he is the only Christian many Protestants can name from 95ad til 1517ad.


1,357 posted on 02/08/2011 7:49:42 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: boatbums; Dr. Eckleburg

so you don’t believe in “once saved always saved” if all infants are saved, then everyone is saved since we were all infants at one time. in fact, if that is correct, Jesus did not have to die on the cross, because all infants who died prior to that Sacrifice went right to heaven, since they never sinned?


1,358 posted on 02/08/2011 7:54:01 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; roamer_1; wmfights; CynicalBear; blue-duncan; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; HarleyD
Roamer: Christ is seen blotting names out, not writing them in.

DrE: Is it the Book of Life where your name is written, or the Book of Death where your name is crossed out?

Revelation 3:4-6 (King James Version)

4Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.

5He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

6He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

1,359 posted on 02/08/2011 7:55:04 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: blue-duncan

lol

Who writes this stuff for you? Bob Hope is dead but some of his writers are still kicking. Them?


1,360 posted on 02/08/2011 7:56:08 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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