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How The Reformation Changed The Church
frontline.org ^ | Dr. Peter Hammond

Posted on 02/05/2011 11:07:42 AM PST by Gamecock

In the book of Judges we read about another generation which arose, which knew neither the Lord nor what He had done (Judges 2:10). Today, it appears that a generation has arisen, which like Israel under the Judges, knows little of either the Lord nor of what He did during the time of the Protestant exodus and the struggles in the wilderness, which followed in the 16th and 17th century. Sometimes this is from a cowardly dislike of controversy and confrontation. But few people seem to understand either the evils from which the Reformation delivered us or the blessings which the Reformation won for us.

The Reformation delivered the Church from gross ignorance and spiritual darkness The church, before the Reformation, was a church without the Bible. And a church without a Bible is as useless as a lighthouse without light, a candlestick without a candle, or a motor vehicle without an engine. The priests and people knew scarcely anything about God’s Word or the way of salvation in Christ.

Bishop J.C. Ryle described the situation: “The immense majority of the clergy did little more than say masses and offer up pretended sacrifices, repeat Latin prayers and chant Latin hymns (which of course most of the people could not understand), hear confessions, grant absolutions, give extreme unction, and take money to get dead people out of purgatory.”

Bishop Latimer observed: “When the devil gets influence in a church, up go candles and down goes preaching.”

Quarterly sermons (that is, once every three months) were prescribed to the clergy, but not insisted upon. Latimer noted that while the mass was never left unsaid for a single Sunday, sermons might be omitted for 20 Sundays in succession. Indeed, to preach much was to incur the suspicion of being a heretic.

Bishop Hooper, who along with Bishop Latimer was burned alive at the stake under Queen Mary, did a survey in 1551 and found that out of 311 clergy in his Diocese, 168 were unable to repeat the Ten Commandments, 31 of those 168 could not even say in which part of the Scripture the Ten Commandments were to be found, 40 could not tell where the Lord’s Prayer was written, and 31 of the 40 did not even know who the author of the Lord’s Prayer was!

Bishop Ryle summarized the situation: “Before the Reformation was a religion without knowledge, without faith and without lively hope – a religion without justification, regeneration and sanctification – a religion without any clear views of Christ and the Holy Ghost. Except in rare instances, it was little better than an organized system of Mary worship, saint worship, image worship, relic worship, pilgrimages, alms giving, formalism, ceremonialism, processions, penances, absolutions, masses and blind obedience to the priests. It was a huge higgledy-piggledy of ignorance and idolatry, and serving an unknown God by deputy. The only practical result was that the priests took the people’s money and undertook to secure their salvation. And the people flattered themselves that the more they gave to the priests, the more sure they were to go to Heaven!”

The Reformation delivered the church from childish superstitions The Roman Catholic church, before the Reformation, taught its members to seek spiritual benefit from so-called relics of dead saints and to treat them with divine honor. Calvin’s “Inventory of Relics” and Hobart Seymour’s “Pilgrimage to Rome” catalog some of the ludicrous swindles which were perpetrated by the church of Rome. This included pieces of wood “of the true cross” enough to load a large ship, thorns professing to be part of the Saviour’s crown of thorns, enough to make a huge faggot, at least 14 nails said to have been used at the Crucifixion, four spearheads – each purporting to be the one which pierced our Lord’s side, at least three seamless coats of Christ, for which the soldiers cast lots, Saint James’s hand, bones of Mary Magdalene, toenails from Saint Edmund, some bread, purported to have been used by Christ at the Last Supper, a girdle of the Virgin Mary and milk from the Virgin Mary! The Royal Commissioners of Henry VIII examined a vial at the Abbey in Gloucestershire, which was said to contain the blood of Christ! The Commissioners found that it contained the blood of a duck.

There were literally thousands of profane and vile inventions, fabrications and deceptions, which Roman priests imposed on the people before the Reformation. They must have known that they were deceiving the people, yet they persisted in presenting these lies and requiring that the ignorant laity believe them. Sometimes the priests induced dying sinners to give vast tracts of lands to abbeys and monasteries, in order to atone for their bad lives. In one way or another, they were continually separating sinners from their money and accumulating property and wealth in the hands of the Roman church.

The power of the priests was practically despotic and was used for every purpose except the advancement of the Christian faith. It seemed that their primary object was power. To them confession had to be made. Without their absolution and extreme unction no professing Christian could be saved. Without their masses no soul could be redeemed from purgatory. In short, they were, to all intents and purposes, the mediators between Christ and man. To please and honor the Roman church was a devout Christian’s first duty. To injure them was the greatest of sins. One of the indulgences issued in 1498, with the authority of the Pope, claimed: “To absolve people from usury, theft, manslaughter, fornication and all crime whatsoever, except smiting the clergy and conspiring against the Pope!”

A starving man in a famine may be reduced to eating rats and rubbish, rather than die of hunger. Similarly, a conscience-stricken soul, deprived of God’s Word, should not be judged too harshly by us, if they struggled to find comfort in the most debasing superstition. However, we must never forget that it was from such superstitions which the Reformation delivered us.

The Reformation delivered the church from blatant immorality Before the Reformation, the lives of the clergy were simply scandalous. There were brothels in the Vatican. The Popes, Cardinals and Bishops openly consorted with prostitutes and engaged in the most debauched orgies. The local priests became notorious for gluttony, drunkenness and gambling. As Bishop Ryle pointed out: “To expect the huge roots of ignorance and superstition, which filled our land, to bear any but corrupt fruit, would be unreasonable and absurd.”

Contemporary art depicted friars as foxes preaching with the neck of a stolen goose peeping out of the hood behind; as wolves giving absolution, with the sheep partly concealed under their cloaks; or as apes sitting on a sick man’s bed with a crucifix in one hand and with the other hand in the suffering person’s pocket! Such public contempt in art reflects the scorn with which the clergy were held at the time.

Bishop Ryle pointed out: “But the blackest spot on the character of our pre-Reformation clergy in England is one of which it is painful to speak … their horrible contempt of the 7th Commandment … the consequences of shutting up herds of men and women in the prime of life, in monasteries and nunneries, were such that I will not defile my paper by dwelling upon them … if ever there was a plausible theory weighed in the balance and found utterly wanting, it is the favorite theory that celibacy and monasticism promote holiness … monasteries and nunneries were frequently sinks of iniquity.”

The report of the Royal Commissioners, under Henry VIII, declared: “That manifest sin, vicious, carnal and abominable living, is daily used and committed in abbeys, priories, and other religious houses of monks, cannons and nuns, and that albeit many continual visitations have been had, by the space of 200 years or more, for an honest and charitable reformation of such unthrifty, carnal and abominable living, yet that nevertheless, little or none amendment was hitherto had, but that their vicious living shamefully increased and augmented.”

It was observed that: “There is no surer recipe for promoting immorality than fullness of bread and abundance of idleness.” (Ezekiel 16:49) It is from such superstition, corruption, immorality, ignorance and idolatry that the Reformation freed the church.

The Reformation gave the church back the Bible In 1519, six men and a woman were burned at Coventry for teaching their children the Ten Commandments, the Lord’s Prayer and the Apostle’s Creed in English. Nothing seems to have alarmed and enraged the Roman priesthood as much as the spread of Bibles in the local language. It was for the crime of translating the Bible into English that the Reformer, William Tyndale, was burned at the stake. Of all the aspects which combined to make up the Reformation, no other aspect received such bitter opposition as the translation and circulation of the Scriptures. The translation of the Bible struck a blow at the root of the whole Roman Catholic system. The Bible, as the only rule of faith and conduct, freely available in the local languages, was a threat to all the superstitions and abuses of the medieval Roman popery. With the Bible in every parish church, every thoughtful man soon saw that the religion of the priests had no basis in Holy Scripture.

The Reformation opened the road to the throne of Grace The way of salvation had become blocked up and made impassible by heaps of superstitious rubble. “He who desired to obtain forgiveness had to seek it through a jungle of priests, saints, Mary worship, masses, penances, confession, absolution and the like, so that there might as well have been no throne of Grace at all.” J.C. Ryle

The Reformers hacked their way through this huge jungle of papal obstruction and cleared the way for every heavy-laden sinner to go straight to the Lord Jesus Christ for remission of sins.

The Reformation restored Biblical simplicity to worship Before the Reformation, the laity were only present at church services as passive, ignorant spectators. The elaborate, theatrical presentations of the sacraments were a solemn farce because the ceremonies and prayers were in Latin. The laity could bring their bodies to the services, but their minds, understanding, reason and spirit could take no part at all. For this reason, the 24th Article of the Church of England declared: “It is a thing totally repugnant to the Word of God and the custom of the primitive church to have public prayer in the church or to minister the sacraments in a tongue not understood of the people.”

The Reformation gave a Biblical understanding of the office of a minister Before the Reformation, the concept of the Christian ministry was sacerdotal. That is – it was understood that every clergyman was a sacrificing priest. The clergy were understood to hold the keys of Heaven and to be practically the mediators between God and man.

The Reformers brought the office of the clergy down to its Scriptural level. They stripped it entirely of any sacerdotal character. They cast out the words “sacrifice” and “altar”. They taught that the clergy were pastors, ambassadors, messengers, witnesses, evangelists, teachers and ministers of the Word and sacraments. The Reformers taught that the chief business of every Christian minister is to preach the Word and to be diligent in prayer and the reading of the Scriptures. The Reformers taught the immense superiority of the pulpit to the confessional. For this reason, where the altar used to be, the Lord’s table was placed with an open Bible, or a pulpit, showing the centrality of God’s Word in the worship of Protestant churches.

The Reformation restored a Biblical understanding of holiness Before the Reformation, it was believed that a monastic life and vows of celibacy were the only ways to escape sin and to attain sanctification. Multitudes of men and women poured into the monasteries and convents under the vain idea that this would please God and ensure their eternal salvation.

The Reformers struck at the root of this fallacy by establishing the great Scriptural principle that true religion was not to be found in retiring into convents and monasteries and fleeing from the difficulties of daily life, but in manfully facing up to our difficulties and doing our duty diligently - in every position to which God calls us. It is not by running away from the world, that we fulfill God’s call, but by courageously resisting the devil, the flesh and the world and overcoming them in daily life. That is how true holiness is to be exhibited. For this reason, the Reformers dissolved the monasteries and convents in their areas and freed the inmates to be reintegrated into normal life.

The Reformers also ordered that the Ten Commandments be set up in every parish church and taught to every child, and that our duty towards God and our neighbor be set forth in the Catechism. They insisted that you cannot become saints by shirking your duties in society.

A Heritage of Faith and Freedom We must continually thank God for the Reformation. It lit the flames of knowledge and freedom which we must ensure are never allowed to be extinguished or to grow dim. We need to continually remember that the Reformation was won for us by the blood of many tens of thousands of martyrs. It was not only by their preaching and praying, and writing and legislation, but by their sacrifices that our religious liberty, freedom of conscience and Christian heritage was won.

The Reformation found church members steeped in ignorance and left them in possession of knowledge. It found them without Bibles and left them with the Bible in every parish. It found them in darkness and left them in light. It found them bound in fear and left them enjoying the liberty and peace which only Christ can give. It found them strangers to the blood of Christ’s atonement, to faith, grace and holiness and left them with the key of all those blessings in their hands. It found them blind and left them with spiritual eyes to see. It found them slaves to superstition and set them free to serve Christ.

As Bishop Ryle declared: “Are we to return to a church which boasts that she is infallible and never changes – to a church which has never repented her pre-Reformation superstitions and abominations – to a church which has never confessed and abjured her countless corruptions? Are we to go back to gross ignorance of true religion? Shame on us, I say, if we entertain the idea for a moment! Let the Israelite return to Egypt, if he will. Let the prodigal go back to his husks among the swine. Let the dog return to his vomit. But let no Englishman with brains in his head, ever listen to the idea of exchanging Protestantism for Popery, or returning to the bondage of the church of Rome. No, indeed! … God forbid! The man who counsels such base apostasy and suicidal folly, must be judicially blind. The iron collar has been broken; let us not put it on again. The prison has been thrown open; let us not resume the yoke and return to our chains … Let us not go back to ignorance, superstition, priestcraft and immorality.”

If you have a Bible in your own language, and enjoy to read and study God’s Word, never forget that you owe that Bible to the Reformation. Brave men and women died that you could have the freedom to delight in God’s Word.

If you know the joy of sins forgiven and new life in Christ, if you are walking by faith and enjoying peace with God, never forget that you owe this priceless privilege to the Reformation.

If you enjoy Church services, Scripture choruses, Hymns, prayers and sermons in your own language, remember that for this you are also indebted to the Reformation.

If you appreciate the Biblical and practical sermons of your pastor, and his counsel, never forget that for this you are indebted to the Reformation. The Reformation is the source of many blessings. We need to ask if we are on the side of the Reformers, or of those who burned them and the Bible. “… Contend earnestly for the Faith which was once for all delivered to the saints.” Jude 3


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To: metmom

1,101 posts and counting and still no Catholic has addressed the topic of the article.

Still trying to figure out what lies and slander they’re referring to.


1,101 posted on 02/07/2011 9:26:30 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
Ever hear of a congressman named Claude Pepper? His opponent accused him of having a daughter that was an equestrian and before old Claude could explain what that was he'd lost the race.

Sometimes the accusation is enough to to do the damage.

1,102 posted on 02/07/2011 9:37:38 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: bibletruth
"The Catholic Church is wrong..."

LOL...I'm sure you believe that, but Jesus founded His Church upon the Rock named Peter for all mankind.

1,104 posted on 02/07/2011 9:45:51 PM PST by Natural Law (As a Catholic I know I am held to a higher standard (but it's worth it).)
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To: roamer_1
And I think the promise to you and your house is direct to you, and indirect to your house - Raising them up in the ways of YHWH does not guarantee their salvation - but it opens the door to them, that they might find YHWH by honoring their father and mother...

I have to agree with you here. When Paul speaks about a believing woman married to an unbeliever, he tells her not to divorce him because of his unbelief, but that the husband was "sanctified" by the believing wife. Now we know this cannot mean that the unbelieving husband was saved without him needing to become a believer in Christ, but that he was "set apart" - the meaning of sanctified. I think this is the same intent with the households of believers. Without their influence and the presence of the Holy Spirit in their lives, they would have little chance of hearing the Gospel and believing. Of course, God is a rewarder of all who seek him, but there is a "head-start" kind of when there is a Dad and Mom who are Christians and the effect they should and will have on their children.

1,105 posted on 02/07/2011 9:46:28 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: blue-duncan

I’m your echo. ;o)


1,106 posted on 02/07/2011 9:49:28 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: Natural Law; bibletruth; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
.I'm sure you believe that, but Jesus founded His Church upon the Rock named Peter for all mankind.

Peter disagrees with that.

1 Peter 2:4-8 As you come to him, a living stone rejected by men but in the sight of God chosen and precious, you yourselves like living stones are being built up as a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. For it stands in Scripture:

"Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone, a cornerstone chosen and precious, and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame."

So the honor is for you who believe, but for those who do not believe,

"The stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone,"

and

"A stone of stumbling, and a rock of offense."

They stumble because they disobey the word, as they were destined to do.

Peter says the rock on which Christ's church is built is Jesus.

An interesting statement from one whom Catholics claim Jesus told He would build His church on.

Peter obviously didn't get the message.

If he had really understood Jesus to mean that Jesus was going to build His church on Peter, then Peter missed his golden opportunity to state it here, plain, clear, and simple.

He didn't. Rather he correctly pointed out that the rock on which the church is built is Jesus Christ.

1,107 posted on 02/07/2011 9:53:59 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Quix; Alamo-Girl
Here's a stealth one. :o)


1,108 posted on 02/07/2011 9:54:49 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums

How precious! LOLOL!


1,109 posted on 02/07/2011 9:58:17 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: CynicalBear; wmfights; roamer_1; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; HarleyD
Who said that infant baptism saves? We have said that the infant is under the cover of the parent who is saved thus saved by the shed blood of Christ through the believing parent. Baptism is only a sign of the washing clean of the blood of Jesus.

How is this any different from the RC doctrine that unbaptized babies did not go to Heaven?

1,110 posted on 02/07/2011 9:58:40 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums; metmom; Alamo-Girl

I just don’t see this as a LOL post.

Nor so I think it’s a “you, go girl” moment.

Rather I think it has become a “making it about a poster” moment.

Maybe it all needs a rest.


1,111 posted on 02/07/2011 10:11:52 PM PST by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: Running On Empty

typo—nor do I think-—


1,112 posted on 02/07/2011 10:12:46 PM PST by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: Running On Empty

You’re a guy, right? Perhaps you didn’t catch the humor in a poster (a man) seeming to try to halt another poster (a woman) from “teaching” him anything and trying to use Scripture in order to do so. Scripture taken out of context in this case.

I agree, though, that the post that prompted the LOL response was unnecessary. Why don’t you rap on him?


1,113 posted on 02/07/2011 10:20:02 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums

lol

love it.


1,114 posted on 02/07/2011 10:24:52 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: boatbums
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1,115 posted on 02/07/2011 10:27:05 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: boatbums; bkaycee; HossB86; Quix
"eternal life" -> I've already replied to this Check my reply to Bkaycee. post number 875 -->

Jesus died on the cross to save us all from sin and the eternal separation from God that sin causes

the promise of eternal life is a gift, freely offered to us by God.

Like ours, his human nature is destined for eternal life; but unlike ours, it is perfectly exempt from sin, the cause of death Rom 5:12
12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned
; ⇒ Heb 4:15.
15 For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet he did not sin.

The beatitude of eternal life is a gratuitous gift of God. It is supernatural, as is the grace that leads us there. 2 Pet 1:4; cf.
4 Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature, having escaped the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.
⇒ Jn 17:3.
3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Although it is God’s grace that enables us, for these acts of ours, God tells us Rom. 2:6–7
6 God “will repay each person according to what they have done.”[a] 7 To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.

Gal. 6:6–10
6 Nevertheless, the one who receives instruction in the word should share all good things with their instructor.
7 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.
8 Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.
9 Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up.
10 Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers


Remember clearly at the end of John 6, when Christ asks his disciples if they too will leave Him, when He told them they would need to eat His Body and drink His blood, then Peter said
"Master, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life."


Jesus alone holds the words of eternal life because He is the Word of God (the bible is the written word, but the LIVING Word is Jesus Christ)

1,116 posted on 02/07/2011 10:35:56 PM PST by Cronos
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To: caww; metmom
oh, I've studied up on Middle-Eastern women -- I lived in Bahrain for some time and Oman for long periods and visited Lebanon quite a bit, and I have Irani roots (ok, ok, Iranis are not Arabs but Aryans)

This is what Lebanese women look like




Jordanian women and more especially SYRIAN women also have it comparable to parts of the West (no bikinis though) -- and ask one of these to be submissive and you'll get a Kobus hit over the head!!

Irani women really run the house too, even in the repressed countryside --> among the many reasons why Iranis are Shias and not Sunnis (more flexibility and acceptance of local cultures).

i'll agree with you about Saudi women -- they are treated like dogs, but then even the Gulf Arabs hate the Sauds and consider them barbarians.

My question still holds --> if one says they obey the NT completely, then it says 1 Tim 2:11 11 A woman[a] should learn in quietness and full submission.? --> that question was to metmom
Also, if you check up on history you will see that Paul was writing his letter to Anatolian women, Greeks, Romans, Lydians etc. -- all Indo-Europeans.....

1,117 posted on 02/07/2011 10:44:17 PM PST by Cronos
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To: metmom
"Peter disagrees with that."

Really? I think you have completely missed the point. Jesus established a Church of all believers comprised of the peoples of all nations. The New and Everlasting Covenant was not of a single race or nation. Such distinctions were irrelevant. That Church is the visible plan of God's love for humanity. God desires that the whole human race may become one People of God, form one Body of Christ, and be built up into one temple of the Holy Spirit. which transcends all the natural or human limits of nations, cultures, races, and sexes:

"For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body." - 1 Corinthians 12:13

1,118 posted on 02/07/2011 10:45:54 PM PST by Natural Law (As a Catholic I know I am held to a higher standard (but it's worth it).)
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To: boatbums
"How is this any different from the RC doctrine that unbaptized babies did not go to Heaven?"

Another mythical doctrine dreamed up by the anti-Catholics.

CCC - 1261 As regards children who have died without Baptism, the Church can only entrust them to the mercy of God, as she does in her funeral rites for them. Indeed, the great mercy of God who desires that all men should be saved, and Jesus' tenderness toward children which caused him to say: "Let the children come to me, do not hinder them," allow us to hope that there is a way of salvation for children who have died without Baptism. All the more urgent is the Church's call not to prevent little children coming to Christ through the gift of holy Baptism.

1,119 posted on 02/07/2011 10:50:24 PM PST by Natural Law (As a Catholic I know I am held to a higher standard (but it's worth it).)
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To: metmom; All
ping on #1107

I agree, and so does God Almighty...and Peter too in 1 Peter 2:4-8...that the cornerstone ROCK which the Christian Church is built on is Jesus Christ. If Catholics dare to read the Scriptures rather than only quote "church fathers" and "traditions of men", then maybe they can graduate beyond 2 Peter 3:15,16, and maybe grow in maturity in Christ and join us true Christians in glorifying the LORD Jesus Christ, rather than falsely anathemizing everyone to destruction; and to stop persecuting those of us whom believe in Christ Jesus; and stop falsely accusing us true believers as not being In Christ.

1,120 posted on 02/07/2011 10:52:30 PM PST by bibletruth
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