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To: kosta50
So the question why did God create the world must be answered with: just because!

The answer, in this case, is not theological, but logical. It has to do with the limits of logic, which is conditional reliant on non-conditional (axiomatic, self-evident, etc) in order to begin at all.

If the first cause was conditional, it would be dependent, and the argument's point is to explain the existence of the dependent set we observe - not add another one to it.

944 posted on 01/28/2011 6:45:37 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
It has to do with the limits of logic, which is conditional reliant on non-conditional (axiomatic, self-evident, etc) in order to begin at all

In other words, out of the thin air. Anyone can build up a logical argument if the first argument is by necessity axiomatic and unconditional.

You said first cause argument is logical. If it is logical then it follows that first cause created and exists just because, for no reason whatsoever. Any other reason suggested destroys the argument.

946 posted on 01/28/2011 7:19:37 PM PST by kosta50 (Pagan prayer to Mithra: "give me over to immortal birth so that I may be born again")
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