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To: kosta50; Alamo-Girl; MHGinTN; xzins; TXnMA; YHAOS; James C. Bennett; MarkBsnr; spirited irish
Invoking an imaginary creator is a weakness in itself known as the god-of-gaps.

Well I'm not so sure about all that.

For one thing, there are no "gaps." The reason for that being: The Creator is not merely imaginary. He is omniscient and omnipotent. By our observation, He HAD to be thus, to have made the world we see all around us as parts and participants thereof. :^)

You are on record as saying that all views of God are opinions only. You even suggest that persons holding such opinions are morons.

Further, you rule out testimony as having any evidentiary value whatsoever.

Great. The position your line of thinking lands us in would seem to go something like this:

Aletheia logos must succumb, must give "right of way," to doxa.

"Aletheia logos" refers to a truthful, sworn statement — a "testimony" in the legal sense, and more. "Doxa" refers to whatever opinion commands public support at a given time. And times are ever a-changing....

You live on a slippery slope, my friend. I hope you will soon find your "legs."

817 posted on 01/23/2011 4:13:15 PM PST by betty boop (Seek truth and beauty together; you will never find them apart. — F. M. Cornford)
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MHGinTN; xzins; TXnMA; YHAOS; James C. Bennett; MarkBsnr; spirited irish
For one thing, there are no "gaps." The reason for that being: The Creator is not merely imaginary.

Oh? You saw him?

He is omniscient and omnipotent. By our observation, He HAD to be thus, to have made the world we see all around us as parts and participants thereof. :^)

Had to be? But he is "changeless", remember? Even though is said to have become his own "sweater"?

You are on record as saying that all views of God are opinions only.

Pretty much, unless you have objective evidence to the contrary that doesn't involve blind faith.

You even suggest that persons holding such opinions are morons.

There are all kinds of people on this planet, betty boop. :)

Further, you rule out testimony as having any evidentiary value whatsoever.

I take it with a grain of salt; that's all. Human recollection is very flawed, and unreliable.

Great. The position your line of thinking lands us in would seem to go something like this: Aletheia logos must succumb, must give "right of way," to doxa.

But "doxa" (since you use Greek terminiology), always means good opinion, praise, glory. It is used in suport of the "aletheia logos," not against it or else it's not "doxa." Aletheia logos" refers to a truthful, sworn statement — a "testimony" in the legal sense, and more. "Doxa" refers to whatever opinion commands public support at a given time. And times are ever a-changing....

You just said that I don't admit much of personal testimony, and yet you think I put public opinions above "true reason." And you say I am on a slippery slope? Slippery in what sense? LOL.

I hope you will soon find your "legs."

Or....?

822 posted on 01/23/2011 6:52:34 PM PST by kosta50 ("Spirit of Spirit...give me over to immortal birth so that I may be born again" -- Mithral prayer)
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