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To: James C. Bennett
The Creator is not within the limits He establishes until He chooses to step inside those limits, as in The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.

You continue to try and define Creator as 'temporally limited'. I just don't accept that for it would make GOD The Creator dependent upon things. We who are within the limits of time and space can only create something using 'things'. The uncaused cause of the universe of limits is by my definition outside of the limits He creates.

755 posted on 01/22/2011 12:08:32 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN; kosta50

Change is impossible without time. Even for a god.


756 posted on 01/22/2011 12:11:06 PM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: MHGinTN; James C. Bennett; Alamo-Girl
The uncaused cause of the universe of limits is by my definition outside of the limits He creates

Well, that's honest. Except I get attacked by some Freepers for using my own definitions, and worse, get called all sorts of nasty things for being my own "measure" of everything.

You are, of course, free to believe anything, even if it violates the very basic rules of logic. It is, after all, your belief and is not subject to criticism. But if you are going to allow for your own definition of God, it is only fair not to attack Dawkins, or anyone else for his; it's everyone's world, you know. :)

In which case I say that pink unicorns live on Jupiter simply because, to use AG's modus oeprandi—it is so. :) It is, to paraphrase you, "by my definition." It doesn't mean it's true; it simply means I am ready to stick to my story no matter how ridiculous it is.

777 posted on 01/22/2011 9:41:09 PM PST by kosta50 ("Spirit of Spirit...give me over to immortal birth so that I may be born again" -- Mithral prayer)
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