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To: James C. Bennett; MHGinTN; TXnMA; betty boop
There is no paradox.

Time is a dimension and there may be more than one dimension of time (Vafa, Wesson et al) just like there are at least three dimensions of space.

Moreover, space/time does not pre-exist, it is created as the universe expands. There was a beginning of real space and real time. (Jastrow et al)

Time and space are required for physical causality - not the other way around.

The first cause (the cause of a mathematical point of zero spatial dimensions which can then change giving rise to dimension time) cannot be physical.

God alone can be the uncaused cause of physical causation. The Creator is not physical, He is not a part of the creation.

Words and measures that we use to describe the beginning of creation - indeed, the creation itself - are themselves part of the creation - as we are - and cannot apply to the Creator of them.

God is not thingly.

Man is not the measure of God.

734 posted on 01/22/2011 11:16:53 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: kosta50
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738 posted on 01/22/2011 11:23:23 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: Alamo-Girl; kosta50; MHGinTN
There is no paradox.

Sorry, there is a huge paradox, as the earlier comments illustrate.

Time is a dimension and there may be more than one dimension of time (Vafa, Wesson et al) just like there are at least three dimensions of space.

May be? Time is a scalar quantity.

Time and space are required for physical causality - not the other way around.

The first cause (the cause of a mathematical point of zero spatial dimensions which can then change giving rise to dimension time) cannot be physical.

God alone can be the uncaused cause of physical causation. The Creator is not physical, He is not a part of the creation.

Words and measures that we use to describe the beginning of creation - indeed, the creation itself - are themselves part of the creation - as we are - and cannot apply to the Creator of them.

I wrote:

The moment something changes what it was doing (or not doing) is the moment it ceases being changeless, and therefore ceases being timeless. The moment of creation is such a moment. For the created and the creator.

The problem is not merely that the creator changed after an act, but that the creator was never free from the bondage of time, in the first place. A change of state required to perform something at a finite moment renders the performer chained to the influence of time, both before and after the act was performed. Otherwise, change would not be possible. No change implies no finite moment of creation.

The paradox clearly exists unresolved by your attempted explanation.

743 posted on 01/22/2011 11:32:49 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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