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To: James C. Bennett
The moment something changes what it was doing (or not doing) is the moment it ceases being changeless, and therefore ceases being timeless. The moment of creation is such a moment. For the creator and the created.

Yup.

705 posted on 01/22/2011 2:55:56 AM PST by kosta50 ("Spirit of Spirit...give me over to immortal birth so that I may be born again" -- Mithral prayer)
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To: kosta50; stormer
The moment something changes what it was doing (or not doing) is the moment it ceases being changeless, and therefore ceases being timeless. The moment of creation is such a moment. For the created and the creator.

Funny to see, isn't it, how for all the verbose self-congratulatory posts, this basic paradox remains to be explored, leave alone resolved? All that has been done is place an arbitrarily chosen deity, and attribute all the limits of current understanding to its mystery alone, scriptural contradictions (even moral contradictions) within the dogma of that chosen deity notwithstanding.

The root, elephant-in-the-room contradiction that seriously afflicts the assumption of a "timeless, changeless first causer" has been conveniently ignored in the entire "solution" for the paradox, and the chosen modus operandi, instead, is to provide pseudo-solutions based on definitions to pretend to resolve the daughter paradoxes that the first one produces, thereby successfully ignoring the latter.

Anyone dwelling in the ignorance of such a solution cannot have the peace of self-conviction they pretend to possess.

719 posted on 01/22/2011 9:53:52 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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