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To: D-fendr; James C. Bennett
I think it is relevant in approaching the subject of truth. Is truth reducible to biochemical reactions?

That's part of what taste is, isn't it? Is that not true? Truth can't be just what we experience. Otherwise we are creating the world in our image. Most religions have done just that.

What is truth for a paramecium? Is truth for you reducible, in principle, to the same thing as a paramecium? Stimulus/response? If not, what's the difference?

What is truth to you or to me? Not only do we not know what the truth is for Paramecium, but we don't have a clue what is truth to the person sitting next to you.

Paramecium is part of the truth—a reminder that the word is nor just for us, about us or from us.  Just as we don't see or hear the entire electromagnetic spectrum, we don't know everything, and therefore can not know what truth is.

What is the purpose or reason the universe exists? The sulfur volcanoes on Io, or planets orbiting stars too distant for us to reach (the closest star is 4 light years away)? It takes light on average 1.3 seconds to reach the Moon. The light from our Sun takes eight minutes to reach us, and 100,000 years to cross our galaxy; 2 million years to reach Andromeda galaxy, our closest galactic neighbor.

There are more stars in the visible universe than there are grains of sand on all of earth's beaches...and you talk to me about truth. Who are we kidding? We can't handle the truth.

1,412 posted on 02/15/2011 2:27:33 PM PST by kosta50 ("Spirit of Spirit....give me over to immortal birth so that I may be born again" -- pagan prayer)
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To: kosta50; D-fendr
What is the purpose or reason the universe exists? The sulfur volcanoes on Io, or planets orbiting stars too distant for us to reach (the closest star is 4 light years away)? It takes light on average 1.3 seconds to reach the Moon. The light from our Sun takes eight minutes to reach us, and 100,000 years to cross our galaxy; 2 million years to reach Andromeda galaxy, our closest galactic neighbor.

There are more stars in the visible universe than there are grains of sand on all of earth's beaches...and you talk to me about truth. Who are we kidding? We can't handle the truth.





WATCH: Carl Sagan: The Pale Blue Dot.


1,416 posted on 02/15/2011 6:21:13 PM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: kosta50
I understand your words, but I'm not certain I get your view, I'm afraid I may be going off on something you're not saying.

we don't have a clue what is truth to the person sitting next to you.… we don't know everything, and therefore can not know what truth is.

Then why and what and how are we discussing? Are you arguing something similar to solipsism? I'm really not clear here, it seems you arguing we can't know whether anything is true. IF that's true, how do you know that?

1,421 posted on 02/15/2011 7:33:17 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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