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To: spunkets; James C. Bennett
Man is an instantiation of the representation, not the representation itself and He certainly does not represent God. God as an instantiation of that Image can represent Himself.

Whether God can or can't is not the issue. The Bible calls man an image of God. If man is an image (representation) of God then man images or represents God, the way your photograph images/represents you.

The display of compassion shown by the dog in the flick was not learned. The compassion arose from the dog's own mind.

You know dog's mind? Can you fly like Peter Pan too? What else can you do? LOL.

You probably meant compassion

Yes I did; the spellchecker somehow changed it.

That's one of the purposes of the limbic system.

Really? What planet do you live on?

Gen 1, 2 and 3 are parable.

Then man is really not an image of God but a figure of speech.

There are none. God's gift of life included their sovereignty of will

If, as you say "It is by Free Will that folks determine if they live in Heaven" then man saves himself. More unChristian beliefs from you. What sect or cult do you belong to anyway?

The truth of any claims, or matters is determined by a rational examination of the relevant evidence.

Everyone says that. What they see as rational is their way.

Democracy is not a logical operation.

What is illogical about it?

What is written in Gen 1 about man being made in the Image of God must hold

Why? You said it's just a parable. It's not a literal image, but a symbolic one?

It makes absolutely no sense that a composition of persons is not a person, or that man which is an instantiation of the Image, is not a person, because the Image does not represent a person.

Why would God have to be subject to human standards? You must have missed the part of the Bible where God supposedly says his thoughts and ways are not like man's.

 It makes absolutely no sense that a composition of persons is not a person

In the Old Testament, God never said he was a person, nor did he ever admit he is not "a man to change [his] mind..." What makes you think God, as he truly is, would have to conform to your idea of what he ought to be? LOL. We only know he is not supposed to be like anything human.

John 2:19, "Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.”

And this is supposed to prove what? It only proves that John is talking past Paul and Luke and Peter, etc. 

Acts 2:24 "But God raised Him up again"

Acts 2:32 "This Jesus God raised up again, to which we are all witnesses."

Acts 3:15 "but put to death the Prince of life, the one whom God raised from the dead, a fact to which we are witnesses."

Acts 3:26 "For you first, God raised up His Servant and sent Him to bless you by turning every one of you from your wicked ways."

Acts 4:10 let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead--by this name this man stands here before you in good health.

Acts 5:30 " The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom you had put to death by hanging Him on a cross."
 
Acts 10:40 "God raised Him up on the third day and granted that He become visible"

Acts 13:30 "But God raised Him from the dead;"

Acts 13:33 that God has fulfilled this promise to our children in that He raised up Jesus

Acts 13:37 "but He whom God raised did not undergo decay."

Romans 7:4 "Therefore, my brethren, you also were made to die to the Law through the body of Christ, so that you might be joined to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God."

Romans 8:34 "who is the one who condemns? Christ Jesus is He who died, yes, rather who was raised, who is at the right hand of God, who also intercedes for us."

Romans 10:9 "that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;"

1 Corinthians 6:14 "Now God has not only raised the Lord, but will also raise us up through His power."

1 Corinthians 15:15 "Moreover we are even found to be false witnesses of God, because we testified against God that He raised Christ, whom He did not raise, if in fact the dead are not raised."

Galatians 1:1 "Paul, an apostle (not sent from men nor through the agency of man, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised Him from the dead,"

Colossians 2:12 "having been buried with Him in baptism, in which you were also raised up with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead."

1 Peter 1:21 "who through Him are believers in God, who raised Him from the dead and gave Him glory, so that your faith and hope are in God."

Overwhelmingly, the New Testament testifies that Jesus was raised by God and didn't raise himself. Clearly, the Gospel references to alleged Jesus' words that he would rebuild the Temple in three days is not a reference to his resurrection, or the Bible contradicts itself big time!

1,153 posted on 02/06/2011 11:07:20 PM PST by kosta50 ("Spirit of Spirit....give me over to immortal birth so that I may be born again" -- pagan prayer)
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To: kosta50
Re: What is written in Gen 1 about man being made in the Image of God must hold.

"Why? You said it's just a parable. It's not a literal image, but a symbolic one?

I said Gen 1 is parable. A parable is a story used to convey, or to communicate some truth. A few particular truths conveyed are that God is a person that created the universe and man in His Image. Another is that male and female are from the same Image. The truths that were not conveyed are the myriad of details regarding what was done. ...like evolution, neurology, physics...

Re: "It makes absolutely no sense that a composition of persons is not a person, or that man which is an instantiation of the Image, is not a person, because the Image does not represent a person.

" Why would God have to be subject to human standards? You must have missed the part of the Bible where God supposedly says his thoughts and ways are not like man's.

God didn't create Himself.

"In the Old Testament, God never said he was a person,"

That's, because He knew there were some folks that would pick up on that all by themselves by using the gifts He gave them. The rest get a facepalm.

Re: "John 2:19, "Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.”

"And this is supposed to prove what? It only proves that John is talking past Paul and Luke and Peter, etc.

No, not John. It's Jesus that's talking. Read the first words in the verse again and try to comprehend them. In order to understand anything in the Bible, His words must be known and understood before anything else is attempted, because He is God and the others can not overrule Him. Else, you'd never know, or understand. I already pointed out that some of the laws Moses gave in the name of God came from Moses according to God.

"Overwhelmingly, the New Testament testifies that Jesus was raised by God and didn't raise himself. Clearly, the Gospel references to alleged Jesus' words that he would rebuild the Temple in three days is not a reference to his resurrection, or the Bible contradicts itself big time!

Christians believe Jesus is God, so there's no contradiction.

1,159 posted on 02/07/2011 12:20:23 AM PST by spunkets
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