[Dutchboy88]

"If that means predestination of those called by God, and we do not merit it, that it God's work by grace through faith (a gift), not of works, yes."

Yes, of course that is what is meant. That the Lutheranism I have observed lately does not embrace this (or much else that Luther wrote of) makes you a raft of truth in a big sea of unbiblical theology.

[xone]

Yes, of course that is what is meant.

Good, but as I told you, I am unfamiliar with the terms.

That the Lutheranism I have observed lately does not embrace this (or much else that Luther wrote of) makes you a raft of truth in a big sea of unbiblical theology.

It is still around, I have seen people who want to soften the message, to be more inclusive. Satan obviously has no overtime budgetary restraints.