[Natural Law]

"You obviously don’t know the views of the early church fathers very well."

You obviously don't know what I do or do not know and the attempted mind reading is not permitted.

That said, the unbroken chain of Apostolic Succession has stood fast against heresies and threats far greater that those posed by the few insignificant anti-Catholics that populate these threads or the feeble congregations they belong to.

I do not care if you believe or not, only that you do not misrepresent the teachings of the Church.

[CynicalBear]

>>You obviously don’t know what I do or do not know and the attempted mind reading is not permitted.<<

When the very words of the early church fathers disagree with what you are trying to teach, and the RCC, I would conclude it is not speculation that you don’t know what they said. It certainly isn’t mind reading to observe and point out the facts. The views of the early church fathers differ from what you are trying to tell us and I will always put more credibility in them then in you.

[Quix]

GIVEN HOW
INTENSELY, BROADLY, CONSTANTLY, PERVERSELY,
The Vatican Alice In Wonderland School Of Theology And Reality Mangling Farcical Fossilized Institution
MANGLED AND MISREPRESENTED:

JESUS THE CHRIST, CREATOR GOD, KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS;
THE APOSTLES;
AND THE AUTHENTIC MARY!
AND CHRISTIANITY in general--
for the 1600-1700 CENTURIES of its EXISTENCE,

Proddys could misrepresent the Vatican AIWSOTARMFFI
100%, 24/7/365 for 1500 years and still fall far short of the horrorific record of the Vatican AIWSOTARMFFI!

So I'd call such a

WAIL
AN
EPIC FAIL!