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Dr. E If a person says he’s a Christian, but the Spirit is not in him, and he falters, never to return to faith, then that person was never saved in the first place

This is what the OP believes: that man can never lose his salvation, no matter what he does, so when they read 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 and Galatians 5:19-21 the OPC believes that if anyone commits any such sin, there is no repentence for the followers of Calvin

Their idea of god will not take repentence, penance, so the followers of Calvin will say that the person never was Christian at all as shown in Dr. E's post above.

the OPC twists the words of scripture by saying that

First between true and false conversion. The Bible recognizes that not everyone who says he believes in Christ really does

Voilą! (by the way, that means "see there" in French) -- the followers of Calvin-Machen use their 14-page excerpted bible to say "Oh, they never were Christian in the first place!"

This so emphatically denies scripture which refutes this -- to give one example, Ezekiel 33

12 “Therefore, son of man, say to your people, ‘If someone who is righteous disobeys, that person’s former righteousness will count for nothing. And if someone who is wicked repents, that person’s former wickedness will not bring condemnation. The righteous person who sins will not be allowed to live even though they were formerly righteous.’

13 If I tell a righteous person that they will surely live, but then they trust in their righteousness and do evil, none of the righteous things that person has done will be remembered; they will die for the evil they have done

14 And if I say to a wicked person, ‘You will surely die,’ but they then turn away from their sin and do what is just and right— 15 if they give back what they took in pledge for a loan, return what they have stolen, follow the decrees that give life, and do no evil—that person will surely live; they will not die. 16 None of the sins that person has committed will be remembered against them. They have done what is just and right; they will surely live.

How clear does God have to get?

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Perhaps you’re incapable of having a discussion. The evidence is piling up. All you do is repost the same response over and over. A response that, more often than not, was not even written by you.

A waste of time.