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I note that you invited someone to this sidebar who has repeatedly compared God to a pink unicorn and testified that he does not know "what" God is.

I do not recall Kosta comparing God to a pink unicorn. Can you please indicate a post?

For that reason I am pinging a bunch of other posters who have - despite all their disagreements (50/50 Catholic, Non-Catholic) - agreed on "Who" God IS.

On a reply, I do not have all the original list of posters. Would you also ping them to this please? I would be interested to know if your claim is correct - that they all agree on "Who" God IS.

Romans 11 makes the link clear. Your concern about validity should be taken up with God and your church leaders who canonized Paul's epistles.

Nowhere in the OT is this idea even put forth. Nowhere. Paul's statement merely takes an OT statement and piles Christianity upon it without any validity whatsoever. God does not tell the Jews that the Gentiles will be saved because of their own unbelief and their own disobedience.

For those of you invited to this sidebar, MarkBsnr's contention is that God failed to convert the Jews. Mine is that God does not fail - it was God's will, it was prophesied in the Song of Moses:

You are linking NT explanations of OT statements that are completely unrelated. Deuteronomy never predicted that the Gentiles would be grafted into the Jewish vine.

The Song of Moses is sung along with the Song of the Lamb:

This is not OT. It is a NT overlay only. If you wish to quote NT ideas and beliefs that I hold as well, please do. But don't try to make the OT say what it does not.

That last part, the warning against "boasting against the branches" is also a prophecy. Some may say that is why the Reformation happened. Others may say that is a prophecy against any belief that God has abandoned the offspring of Israel.

Some also say that the Reformation and the Restoration et al were simply repeated eras of the introduction of new and innovative theologies that depart from the Gospel of Jesus.

Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish [ought] from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. Matthew 24:11

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Matthew 24:24

For such [are] false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 2 Corinthians 11:13-14

But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2Peter 2:1

This is how traditional Christians view the heretics of the first and second millennium.

I do not recall Kosta comparing God to a pink unicorn. Can you please indicate a post?...On a reply, I do not have all the original list of posters. Would you also ping them to this please?

Sorry, I don't save posts nor do I read all of the posts that are not directed to me. However, our friend Kosta has been known on frequent occasions to say rather unkind things about the Apostles (especially Paul) and questioned the validity of the scriptures. Comparing God to a pink unicorn would not be a surprise to me.

I do not recall Kosta comparing God to a pink unicorn

It will be interesting to see where I said "God is like a pink unicorn"!

To answer your first question:

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“Theological debate between believers...or example Lutherans and Orthodox is possible as they accept the basics....as in the existance of God and the Word of God being present in the Gospels and Scripture.”

You mean they accept the unproven suppositions which might as well be pink unicorns on Jupiter?

On the next point, the only two that appear to be missing from your ping are MHGinTN and one Lord one faith one baptism.

me: The Song of Moses is sung along with the Song of the Lamb:

you: This is not OT. It is a NT overlay only. If you wish to quote NT ideas and beliefs that I hold as well, please do. But don't try to make the OT say what it does not.

Clearly Revelation 15:2-4 speaks of the Song of Moses. And clearly, Deuteronomy 32 is the Song of Moses:

And the LORD said unto Moses, Behold, thou shalt sleep with thy fathers; and this people will rise up, and go a whoring after the gods of the strangers of the land, whither they go [to be] among them, and will forsake me, and break my covenant which I have made with them. Then my anger shall be kindled against them in that day, and I will forsake them, and I will hide my face from them, and they shall be devoured, and many evils and troubles shall befall them; so that they will say in that day, Are not these evils come upon us, because our God [is] not among us?

And I will surely hide my face in that day for all the evils which they shall have wrought, in that they are turned unto other gods. Now therefore write ye this song for you, and teach it the children of Israel: put it in their mouths, that this song may be a witness for me against the children of Israel. – Deut 31:16-19

And Moses spake in the ears of all the congregation of Israel the words of this song, until they were ended. – Deut 31:30

So again, if you question the Song of Moses reference – take it up with God or your religious leaders who canonized both Revelation and the Torah.

Some also say that the Reformation and the Restoration et al were simply repeated eras of the introduction of new and innovative theologies that depart from the Gospel of Jesus.

The Jews of the first century – who had thousands of years experience, Scriptures and tradition on their side – probably felt the same way about Jesus and the Apostles.

To God be the glory, not man, never man.