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To: caww
"Without question....they are not taking a unified stand" --> actually, you are wrong. They are and there are many good priests who do speak out -- I would suggest you do drop in any nearby Catholic parishes and see the number of good priests

And of course Christ is looking at the sins of the priests and bishops and pastors -- these pastors are held to a higher standard, that is why in Dante's Inferno, the path to hell is lined with the skulls of bishops. If a shepherd does not adequately shepherd his flock, he will be judged very severely.

The job of the flock is to follow The Good shepherd, Christ, to focus on Him, not on the sub-shepherds who have not one level of the ability of The Shepherd. Yet, the sheep are not to huddle away and form their own flocks with their own leaders because those sheep without shepherds are prone to wolves (from J Smith to Ellen G White to the Taize movement etc).

The focus is to be always on The Shepherd, not on the sub-shepherds/pastors.
1,232 posted on 01/19/2011 9:53:16 PM PST by Cronos (Bobby Jindal 2012)
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To: Cronos

Well then who pray tell has been appointed to guard your church if everyone is ‘looking past’ these happenings and those who are committing them... and not acting with the authority Christ has given them to act!

First catholic church I entered had a Priest who had his own private male concubine. The laity knew it...and the Priest knew they knew. The kid was a troubled kid the Priest took under his belt, in more ways than one. I asked why nobody said anything about this, (I wasn’t even a Christen then.) I was told these stinging words..” We just accept this is how it is, he (the Priest) is truly loved here and no one can imagine him not being our Priest, the kid is better off with the Priest than on his own”. The year was 1987.... I was in that community 7 yrs. and watched that kid grow to be a damaged young man.

As I see it your sheep don’t have to worry so much about leaving the flock to run into wolfs...they’re already huddling next to them by remaining there...they lack the discernment to distiguish a wolf in shepherds clothing.


1,241 posted on 01/19/2011 10:15:37 PM PST by caww
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To: Cronos

Cronos...if you saw a little girl on the street being raped by a man would you just look to Christ...would you not act to help her?


1,243 posted on 01/19/2011 10:18:30 PM PST by caww
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To: Cronos; metmom
The job of the flock is to follow The Good shepherd, Christ, to focus on Him, not on the sub-shepherds who have not one level of the ability of The Shepherd.

This is 180 degrees out of phase with how the Catholic religion operates. One has to confess their sins to a sub-shepherd, receive sacraments from a sub-shepherd, pray to sub-shepherds, etc..

Jesus made it so simple, He is the way the truth and the life. No man comes to the Father but by Him.
1,289 posted on 01/20/2011 5:59:18 AM PST by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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