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To: D-fendr

When you prayer to humans in Heaven, do you receive a response from them? Can they provide comfort to you, like the Holy Spirit does?

Certainly the body of Christ, that remains on Earth, is unified, but there is nothing in scripture that suggests we can communicate with departed humans. In fact, scripture strictly forbids us from communicating with any spirit that has left this world, except for The Holy Spirit.


911 posted on 12/19/2010 11:12:29 AM PST by Turtlepower
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To: Turtlepower
When you prayer to humans in Heaven, do you receive a response from them?

I ask the Saints in Heaven to pray for me. They are with me in Holy Communion. We believe in the Communion of Saints - including those in Heaven. Do I hear the voices of those in Heaven. No. Does being part of and in communion with the full Body of Christ engender a response in me. Most definitely. The most important response of my life here on earth.

Can they provide comfort to you, like the Holy Spirit does?

Not "like". They are two radically different things. The comfort of the Saints is different. Somewhat like the comfort of another human, like a mother perhaps. And like the comfort of those who have gone and who have sacrificed for our Lord before us. The saints serve as guides and people to emulate. We know they are with God and, with us, in the Body of Christ. The Communion of the Saints, being part of the Body of Christ are the supreme comforts. Asking the Saints for their prayers and honoring their love and sacrifice is but one way for me to bring present that and one result is comfort and confidence. It is not an either/or, but an and. And I welcome all the ands God provides. :)

In fact, scripture strictly forbids us from communicating with any spirit that has left this world, except for The Holy Spirit.

It forbids necromancy.

We reference two parts of scripture in this regard. First, that our God is the God of the living, Christ has defeated death. Secondly, Revelation 5:8, which depicts the saints in heaven offering our prayers to God under the form of "golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints."

thanks for your reply. Certainly the body of Christ, that remains on Earth, is unified, but there is nothing in scripture that suggests we can communicate with departed humans. In fact, scripture strictly forbids us from communicating with any spirit that has left this world, except for The Holy Spirit.

912 posted on 12/19/2010 11:28:49 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Turtlepower
I'm sorry my post ended confusingly with a remnant of a copy and paste of part of your post. It should have ended with:

thanks for your reply.

915 posted on 12/19/2010 11:32:27 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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