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Bishops’ Halloween Advice: Dress Children Up as Saints, Not Witches
The Catholic Herald (UK) ^ | 10/13/10 | Simon Caldwell

Posted on 10/14/2010 8:20:33 AM PDT by marshmallow

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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

This obnoxious manifestation — actually started out as the “Eve of All Hallows” — children DID dress as saints in the very beginning.

It has been corrupted by the modern world. Stick with the saints and you can’t go wrong.

We all know the apostles — have children be apostles!


21 posted on 10/14/2010 9:09:02 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3; marshmallow; All
Bishops’ Halloween Advice: Dress Children Up as Saints, Not Witches
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22 posted on 10/14/2010 9:12:57 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: marshmallow

Yesh, but in my youth we would have dressed as headless saints.

But then, we grew up on those horror comic books of the 60s.


23 posted on 10/14/2010 9:14:30 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: marshmallow

Oh for crying out loud, I couldn’t even read the entire article.

Here is an idea.

How about we let little kids be kids. They only get one chance to be a kid, then they grow up and are forced to deal with idiots.

When I was a kid I dressed as a scary ghost, a hobo, a cowboy—with two “six shooters”, a pirate and various Superheroes.

Surprisingly, I have never worshiped the devil, lived in a boxcar while eating from dumpsters, robbed a bank and shot up the town, forced anyone to walk the plank, and I have never jumped from a skyscraper trying to save the world from evildoers.

Instead, I grew up and served my country in the US Army, started a couple of businesses, and later spent 30 years fighting crime as a LEO, detective. Come to think of it, it might have been those Superhero costumes and playing with my Army men and toy guns that twisted my mind, causing me to walk down those horrible and sinful roads in my life.

Maybe I just got lucky, after all, I was born on Halloween.... Boo!


24 posted on 10/14/2010 9:16:24 AM PDT by Gator113 (Beauty will devour the Beast in 2012. Kill "Obamamosque"@ Ground Zero)
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To: tnlibertarian

It’s interesting that back in the 50s, early 60s we wore our costumes to class on Halloween and the nuns/priests had no problem with it. Then again, those were more sane and sensible times; why, we even played on metal jungle gyms and rode our bikes without helmets, what a concept.


25 posted on 10/14/2010 9:18:12 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: colorcountry

Cool!...thanks for the idea. Something similar will be on the front porch!


26 posted on 10/14/2010 9:18:41 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Gator113

You must not have truly celebrated the Halloween spirit then, if you turned out ok. Try to get your kids to be more pro-active in their celebrations, and maybe they will grow up to be like their costumes!


27 posted on 10/14/2010 9:20:55 AM PDT by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: Salvation

“You can’t read our minds, nor can you read the mind of God.”

But I can red the news.


28 posted on 10/14/2010 9:21:16 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: colorcountry

29 posted on 10/14/2010 9:21:59 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Salvation; All

I think MYOB is 90 times better..


30 posted on 10/14/2010 9:27:37 AM PDT by KevinDavis (President Obama: The Crybaby in Chief...)
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To: marshmallow
, and it is time we reminded Christians of what it really is

Which means the ancient Celtic observance of Samhain.

31 posted on 10/14/2010 9:29:01 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Gator113

“served my country in the US Army, started a couple of businesses, and later spent 30 years fighting crime as a LEO, detective.”
see that right there qualifies you as a hero in my book, maybe even a super one.:)


32 posted on 10/14/2010 9:30:05 AM PDT by madamemayhem (defeat is not getting knocked down, it is not getting back up.)
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To: Gator113
How about we let little kids be kids. They only get one chance to be a kid, then they grow up and are forced to deal with idiots.

Exactly.

33 posted on 10/14/2010 9:40:49 AM PDT by mockingbyrd (Remember in November.)
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To: pogo101
But I thought the point of dressing up in scary supernatural-themed costumes, on the day before All Saints Day, was partly to lampoon evil.

The Celts believed that during Samhain the wall between the living and dead got so thin the dead could come through. People wore scary costumes so the harmful spirits wouldn't notice them. The practice was later absorbed into the Christian event placed around the same time. I say around because Samhain (and thus Halloween) goes according to the Celtic lunar calendar, so would be on the new moon around Oct 31, which is Nov 6 this year.

34 posted on 10/14/2010 9:44:05 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Peter from Rutland

This is also the policy of our Catholic school. Children should come as saints or other positive figures . . This allows for some of the girls to come as modern Magdalenes before her reform)and I know of a child who went as Saint Stephen. Really the possibilities for gruesome martyrdom and gore are endless.


35 posted on 10/14/2010 9:47:14 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: Peter from Rutland
And Catholics wonder why people make fun of them.

You got your tradition of dressing up on Halloween ("All Hallows Eve'n" = the night before All Saints day) from us stupid Catholics in the first place, or didn't you know that?

People would dress up as saints. Those who dressed up as martyrs incorporated some elements of the instruments of the martyrs' death (which is a traditional element in the iconography of martyrs), which is how gory costumes got started.

And now you think we're strange for not embracing your corruption of our traditions???

36 posted on 10/14/2010 9:47:36 AM PDT by Campion
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To: marshmallow

Halloween has become a HUGE event. It’s bizarre.


37 posted on 10/14/2010 9:48:36 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Rinnwald
Thanks for the great Halloween costume ideas, Catholic church!

Exactly. It would be nice if we could come up with a good costume idea for saints who were beheaded. (I'd like to dress up as St. Thomas More, myself.) Simulating the decapitated condition in a costume is not easy, however.

38 posted on 10/14/2010 9:49:22 AM PDT by Campion
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To: antiRepublicrat
Which means the ancient Celtic observance of Samhain.

Well, not necessarily, because All Saints' Day was moved to November 1 by the Pope of Rome (it was originally in the late spring, and still is, in the East), and I don't think "ancient Celtic observances" had much to do with it.

Pagans celebrated stuff around that time because it was the end of the harvest in N. Europe, just like the celebrated stuff in the spring (for obvious reasons) and around the winter solstice (yes, they did astronomy, too). It doesn't follow that anything celebrated around that time is pagan.

39 posted on 10/14/2010 9:52:53 AM PDT by Campion
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To: Campion

“And now you think we’re strange for not embracing your corruption of our traditions???”

Don’t get me started on that Coca Cola creation, Santa Claus.


40 posted on 10/14/2010 9:53:38 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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