Posted on 08/31/2010 6:42:35 PM PDT by Gamecock
I really like Glenn Beck. Though I have never met him in person, I have often watched his television programs and thought it would be so nice to have that kind of a guy as a friend. I imagine that he is far too busy and way too inaccessible for that to become a reality, but I do genuinely like the man. He is insightful, articulate, funny, and seems to want some great things for his family and our nation. I do think that sometimes he has one or two conspiracy theories that may not be fully justified - we shall see - but all in all, Glenn seems to be a really nice guy.
I share many of the same goals as Glenn. I speak as one born in England but now very much a U.S. citizen. All my children were born here in these United States and I live and pray for America to become in all reality, "one nation under God." I love America. I sincerely believe Glenn does too.
But I do have a problem - not a problem with him as a person in any way at all, but when he asks me to join him in praying for the very same things I wish for my country, I just cannot. I can pray for these things privately, and with fellow Christians, of course, and I do. I just cannot stand with Glenn in a public setting and be comfortable while I know he is praying to a false god. How could I ever say "Amen" at the end of his prayer that people would turn back to the god he serves? I just cannot do it. That is because Glenn Beck is a Mormon. The "god" he prays to is not in any way the same God as mine.
I know.. I know.. even saying this is politically and religiously incorrect, but I cannot help but say it. When Glenn Beck speaks of "god" we need to remember that he uses a different dictionary to Christians. The God of the Bible is One in essence and eternally exists in three co-equal Persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Mormons reject this completely, believing that there are many worlds controlled by different gods and the god of this planet was once a man. The Jesus of Mormonism is the begotten offspring of this exalted man in sexual union with one of his many wives, and this god lives on a planet circling a star named Kolob, and his "gospel" is the message of how you, too, can be exalted to godhood. Christianity is Monotheistic. Mormonism is the most polytheistic religion in the world. Doctrine matters folks and deceived people, deceive people!
A dear fellow Christian, in coming to understand where I am on this issue wrote to me today saying, "I like Glenn Beck and appreciate his effort to bring America back to her godly roots. He is doing a great job in uniting government, church, and media. He does speak from a Mormon perspective but still has a heart of seeing America return to God even though he might not have the same theological view as we do."
I responded by saying, " I understand you - but I cannot agree that Mormonism is in any way "godly." According to the Bible, there is nothing at all godly about false religion. Godliness is not just about acts of service, honor, integrity, courage and the like, as wonderful as these things are, but it also includes worship of the One true God and the avoidance of all forms of idolatry. Mormonism is idolatrous worship and when Glenn Beck prays, despite his intentions, he prays to a false god who cannot help either Mr. Beck or America."
I can remember reading about the worshippers of the golden calf. They had high family values and were absolutely sincere in their worship. Now I may not be the sharpest tool in the drawer, but I do tend to get the distinct impression that God didn't like the worship - yeah, the ground opening up and swallowing the worshippers.. hmmm... it does lead me to believe that God was somehow ticked, wouldn't you say?
And then I wonder what God would feel about a "prophet" in the Old Testament asking Baal to bring Israel back to its godly roots. I think in such times, he would be stoned. In Deuteronomy 18:20 God says to His people, "But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die."
God often tested His people by seeing if they would be true to Him even as false prophets tried to lure them away from Himself. God says, "If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, ‘Let us go after other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams. For the Lord your God is testing you, to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall walk after the Lord your God and fear him and keep his commandments and obey his voice, and you shall serve him and hold fast to him. But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has taught rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you out of the house of slavery, to make you leave the way in which the Lord your God commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the evil from your midst" (Deuteronomy 13:1-5).
Thank God for grace!!! (we don't stone false prophets now) but I believe God's feelings about false worship have not changed. As Glenn Beck calls this nation to pray for some very valuable, important and even vital things, I ask now, is God testing us in the same way today? Perhaps God has raised Glenn Beck up for this very purpose, to test our hearts. Just a thought!
As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord, the one and only God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the eternal One, Yahweh, the great I AM, the Alpha and Omega, who is from everlasting to everlasting.
So, though I really like you Glenn, thanks for the invite, but I cannot join you.
“We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately (attributed).” - At the signing of the Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776
True today also no matter who said it. We can all fist-fight AFTER we vote the bamster and his crew out.
Boy the ‘pastors’ and ‘reverends’ are out in force with the stupidity tonight
I can remember reading about the worshippers of the golden calf. They had high family values and were absolutely sincere in their worship.
Relevant, cutting edge and seeker friendly, too.
Samuel Adams prayed to God, in his way, but he was simply stating that he would not refuse to pray with anyone else. There is but one God, though some call Him by different names, and approach Him in different ways of worship. If someone believes in God as the Author of Life, I don't care WHAT they call Him.
Oh brother...it’s all interpretation. Muslims would disagree, so would wiccans - no one wins these “My God is real” arguments.
sure they do, only one God is real and the Moslems, wiccans, hindus, bhuddists all know that somehow their religions lack that which Christianity has to offer.......salvation through Jesus Christ. Mankind fell to the point that a savior was necessary to atone for their sins, Jesus came to earth, sacrificed His life for us, and founded the Catholic church so that we could continue His teachings throughout the rest of time......good plan!!
Spoken from a true place of ignorance...how does it feel to live there?
I was at the rally on Saturday. Religious theology was NOT mentioned. I’m a Baptist preacher’s kid and don’t have a problem with Beck being a Mormon. Whatever works for him is great. Instead of dividing this country over our differences we should hang together or we will hang separately.
So you’re saying all those people that showed up Saturday in person and online are just flat out wrong.
Since we’re all so bold to speak for God I believe He was pleased with the spirit of the event...Unity.
FYI ...
I live in the #4 county in the nation in which to raise a family according to FORBES MAGAZINE.
Does that answer your question?
I spent 14 year living in Western NM. (1972-1986) I had many Mormon friends. Have yet to meet one that I did not find a good family man, most were very honest and I frankly liked them.
For 2 years I was Republican County Chairman in Grant County. The Dem to Rep. registration ratio was 5 Dems to 1 Rep. It was a mine-union town. The three groups that I could always count on at the polls were the rock-ribbed Rep. Ranchers, the Mormons and the John Birchers. I had differences of opinion and beliefs with the latter 2, but they were always there to fight the political battles.
I also have good historic grasp of how the Mormon church was formed. Some of that history is not written. And the description of other parts are only sold in a brown paper wrapper under the counter in Utah.
God has used even non-believers to accomplish his ends. (example Cyrus the Great freeing the Jews from Babalonian Captivity)
Beck is correct, the battle we are fighting is about faith, truth, morals and the rule of law. (Many of our laws have biblical origin.)
Lets put asside our differences and get on with the battle with the evil one and his surrogates.
God can use anyone to work his will. He changed the heart of a pagan Moabite, Ruth from whose line descended Jesus. He used another pagan prostitute, Rahab, to hide his spies. She also became an ancestor of Jesus. He use the pagan Cyrus of Persia to send the Jews to Jerusalem to rebuild the temple. He used a theologically challenged Ethiopian eunuch to take the gospel to Africa.
He even used a donkey.
God can use Glenn Beck, too, to work his purpose in America. The fact that he is Mormon will not stop the Lord. His arm is not too short. If Beck is truly saved, he will eventually enter heaven. However, saved or not, the Lord can still use him.
THEOLOGICAL = VALUES.
MORMONS ARE CHRISTIAN
no they aren’t
God can use anyone to work his will. He changed the heart of a pagan Moabite, Ruth from whose line descended Jesus. He used another pagan prostitute, Rahab, to hide his spies. She also became an ancestor of Jesus. He use the pagan Cyrus of Persia to send the Jews to Jerusalem to rebuild the temple. He used a theologically challenged Ethiopian eunuch to take the gospel to Africa.
He even used a donkey.
God can use Glenn Beck, too, to work his purpose in America. The fact that he is Mormon will not stop the Lord. His arm is not too short. If Beck is truly saved, he will eventually enter heaven. However, saved or not, the Lord can still use him.
That’s the broad message I got.
What an absolute dumbass Pastor Samson is.
Being Mormon is irrelevant.
That pretty well sums it up, although the “Jesus loves me best” crowd won’t like it that much.
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