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To: Dr. Eckleburg
The Reformed believe in God,

As you have so very well demonstrated, not the Christian God. An odd mix of Christian names and terms applied to pagan concepts such as the wrath and hatred of many, versus the love and mercy towards all taught by Jesus.

unlike Mother Teresa whose faith did not sustain her. For the last 50 years of her life she was an unbeliever. That is very sad.

Negative. She was not an unbeliever; she, following in a similar experience to some of the great Christian mystics such as Mother Teresa is not the only modern saint to have undergone such a trial of faith; one thinks also of precursors like St. Paul of the Cross, and St. Jane Frances de Chantal (1572-1641), and Ste. Thérèse of Lisieux (1873-1897), the French Carmelite famous for her “Little Way.”

She had no atheism or unbelief; she had an intense spiritual struggle which many people are spared. She endured to the very end, as Jesus and Paul and indeed, much of the NT message teaches us. I don't find her to be worthy of the contempt shown by many. I see the depth of her struggles, comparing them to the fatuous and sneering smugness of the OSAS crowd or the predestination crowd, and find her, not them, as Paul tells us, to imitate him as he imitates Christ.

6,573 posted on 09/21/2010 3:20:22 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr; Dr. Eckleburg
Negative. She was not an unbeliever; she, following in a similar experience to some of the great Christian mystics such as Mother Teresa is not the only modern saint to have undergone such a trial of faith; one thinks also of precursors like St. Paul of the Cross, and St. Jane Frances de Chantal (1572-1641), and Ste. Thérèse of Lisieux (1873-1897), the French Carmelite famous for her “Little Way.”
She had no atheism or unbelief; she had an intense spiritual struggle which many people are spared. She endured to the very end, as Jesus and Paul and indeed, much of the NT message teaches us. I don't find her to be worthy of the contempt shown by many. I see the depth of her struggles, comparing them to the fatuous and sneering smugness of the OSAS crowd or the predestination crowd, and find her, not them, as Paul tells us, to imitate him as he imitates Christ.

Could you show us some Nt examples of doubt and disbelief in the disciples after Pentecost?

Mother Teresa was a poor unsaved , very nice lady that hopped work would take her to God if there was one..

2 Corth 1:21 Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, [is] God; 22 Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts

Eph 1:13 In whom ye also [trusted], after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

1Jo 4:13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.

1Jo 3:19 And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him. 20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things. 21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, [then] have we confidence toward God.

Those apostles were tortured and murdered and never had a "dark night of the soul"..Because they Knew that they knew... Poor Mother Teresa had no assurance

6,587 posted on 09/21/2010 4:25:40 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Jhn 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word.)
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