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To: RnMomof7; Legatus; kosta50; MarkBsnr
Protestant should be celebrating the work of Christ to satisfy the wrath of God against us

These types of statements confuse the Trinity as if they are not united and CO-Equal LOVE..Thus, come across as the Trinity consisting of a God who is wrath, the other who is only sacrificial satisfaction and would thus leave the Holy Spirit as wrathfully sacrificial.Thus, the angry God needed to be satisfied of His anger by sacrificing God the Son for something He created(mankind)for the sin that God planned mankind to commit according to the Calvinist

It almost seems possible that Calvin thought Christ was totally depraved being Incarnate

Perhaps you should read Bishop Fulton Sheen

In the Divine Essence, the Father not only contemplates His Son, Who is His Eternal Image. As a result of the mutual love for one another, there is also a spiration, or an act of mutual love, which is called the Holy Spirit. Just as to speak means to pronounce a word, and to flower means to produce blossoms, so to love is to breathe love, or sigh, or spirate. As we know that a rosebush is in flower by its blossoms, so the Father gives intellectual expression to all knowledge by His Word. Now we know that the Father and Son are in love, both for themselves and even for us, through their Holy Spirit of Love. This mutual love of Father for Son and of Son for Father is not a fleeting love like ours, but so eternal and so rooted in the Divine essence as to be personal. For that reason, the Holy Spirit is called a Person. The love of friend for friend is sometimes said to make them one soul; but in no sense does it breathe forth a new person. In the family, however, the analogy is better, for the mutual love of husband and wife does "breathe," not wholly in the order of the spirit but in the order of spirit and matter, a new person, who is the bond of their love. But all this is imperfect, for regardless of how much love there is among humans, the good which is loved remains separated and external.

6,452 posted on 09/20/2010 1:52:36 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi
These types of statements confuse the Trinity as if they are not united and CO-Equal LOVE..Thus, come across as the Trinity consisting of a God who is wrath, the other who is only sacrificial satisfaction and would thus leave the Holy Spirit as wrathfully sacrificial.Thus, the angry God needed to be satisfied of His anger by sacrificing God the Son for something He created(mankind)for the sin

Just a thought is God sovereign over anything in the Catholic mind?

To pretend that God was surprised by the fall in Eden is nothing more than scriptural ignorance. To pretend that Satan and his demons are the equal to God in their power here is nothing more than scriptural ignorance. To pretend that God is not sovereign over all the angels, even the fallen ones is nothing more than scriptural ignorance.

To pretend that God is not a God of Justice and wrath is a matter of scriptural ignorance .
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

"To call sin rebellion against God is “shallow and insulting to the human being,” writes one Christian author. As much as I appreciate this individual’s sincerity, I am deeply concerned aboutthe perspective he and many others are advocating.It’s unbiblical. It hinders us from understanding the seriousness of sin, the reality of wrath, and the necessity of the Cross.
What was the primary purpose of the Cross? Just this: It was there that Jesus satisfied the fierce and holy wrath of Almighty God which we would otherwise have experienced. God’s accumulated and justified anger fell, in all its power and severity, not on us who deserved it, but on his Son. Jesus didn’t just save us from our sin— he saved us from God himself."
C.J. Mahaney

And THAT is the good news..

6,497 posted on 09/20/2010 3:41:17 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Jhn 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word.)
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