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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Only a hateful and cruel God needs to force love. It takes a perverted sense of love to call that love and not manipulation.

God in reality is love. True love comes from God to us, through us, to others - if we accept it, cooperate in love, desire to be with God in love, not forced or manipulated.

This is as different from forced love as it gets.

It is clear why Calvin had to teach that love of God not a matter of choice - when the foundation of double predestination is clearly seen, choosing to love, in the usual sense of the word, this god is not possible.

One can be grateful they were spared, but it is again a Stockholm Syndrome kind of love: the tormentor tormented others and not me.


4,533 posted on 09/14/2010 2:13:12 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
Only a hateful and cruel God needs to force love.

That is the modern, Hallmark version of God.

Scripture gives us another, better revelation of who God is. God loves His children so much that "while they were yet sinners, Christ died for them."

Not after they were good; not after they believed, but before they came to faith, while they were yet sinners Christ redeemed them, and "made them accepted in the beloved."

Read Ephesians 1.

That is love -- that God takes a sinner and turns his eyes from self to Christ for no other reason that it pleases Him to do so.

Congratulate yourself all you want on your clever choice to believe. As for me, I will praise the God of my salvation.

"Faithful is He that calleth you, who also will do it." -- 1 Thess. 5:24

4,621 posted on 09/14/2010 12:04:37 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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