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To: stfassisi
lol. Your cut-and-paste makes your argument look foolish, stfassisi. Protestants invoke the Apostles' Creed and when they recite the term "holy catholic church" they know it refers to the universal Christian church, and not to the Vatican bureaucracy headed by the false bishop of Rome.

Protestants also acknowledge there was a purpose for the early councils which was to formulate doctrine and hold back heresy. Sometimes the councils succeeded and sometimes they didn't.

As the Westminster Confession of Faith reminds us...

III. It belongs to synods and councils, ministerially to determine controversies of faith, and cases of conscience; to set down rules and directions for the better ordering of the public worship of God, and government of his Church; to receive complaints in cases of maladministration, and authoritatively to determine the same; which decrees and determinations, if consonant to the Word of God, are to be received with reverence and submission; not only for their agreement with the Word, but also for the power whereby they are made, as being an ordinance of God appointed thereunto in His Word.[4]

IV. All synods or councils, since the apostles' times, whether general or particular, may err; and many have erred. Therefore they are not to be made the rule of faith, or practice; but to be used as a help in both.[5]

And you'll have to provide verification for that supposed prayer by Augustine regarding Mary for anyone to believe it wasn't spawned by Rome's wishful thinking.

4,389 posted on 09/13/2010 7:15:19 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Your cut-and-paste makes your argument look foolish, stfassisi. Protestants invoke the Apostles' Creed and when they recite the term "holy catholic church

The Apostles creed comes to us through Council in Milan and is traced back to Saint Ambrose where CATHOLICS believed in the Sacraments of the Catholic Church,devotion to Mary etc.. that is NOTHING like protestants believe

So, look who is being foolish NOW.

Good Night,I have had enough of your lack of credibility!

I wish you a peaceful evening!

4,402 posted on 09/13/2010 7:45:03 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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