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"..the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through baptism as through a door. Hence they could NOT be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as NECESSARY by God through Christ, would refuse to enter it, or to remain in it. - The Second Vatican Council. The Second Vatican Council, "Dogmatic Constitution on the Church" no. 14.

The Second Vatican Council also had this to say about "separated brethren".

"Non Catholic Christians who have been justified by baptism have a valid means of salvation, says the Church, but NOT in its fullness as in the Roman Catholic Church." -Second Vatican Council, "Decree on Ecumenism, " no. 3.

I just want to know if these are now considered falsehoods by the the Vatican Council. Or still binding by the Vatican Council.

Because you accuse me of stating a falsehood. And I am giving you what your Vatican 2 said. So either I am being false. Or they are being false.

NOT "ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH!"

You did not show what I asked you to show, and before there was any matter of evidence, I pointed out the difference, so I didn't shuck and jive after you brought your case.

Do you know that the Catholic Church is necessary? Only those who know that and refuse to enter or to remain in are in deep trouble. This does not say "there is NO salvation outside the Roman Catholic Church." It says "the Church", and "the Catholic Church". Then it says if you do know the Church is founded as necessary (it does not say for what) but refuse to enter it or remain in it THEN you can NOT be saved.

But that is quite a different thing from the proposition you first stated.

Then there's:
"Non Catholic Christians who have been justified by baptism have a valid means of salvation, says the Church, but NOT in its fullness as in the Roman Catholic Church."

The words "but not in its fullness" modify "means" not Salvation. Indeed I do not see how there can be degrees of salvation. Either you're a crispy critter or you're not.

I have already sketched what the lack of fullness of means might be.

To be simple-minded: I can "know" that if I regret my sins and mean to avoid them in future and a go to confession I am indeed forgiven. We maintain that if you go directly to God or to your pastor or a friend or whatever, you may well receive a forgiveness just as complete as what I received. But you may not.

Jesus is a spendthrift. I'm not going to say where He does NOT spend Himself. I am not only confident but happy to say that He calls many all over the place to come to Him and enjoy Him, and when they drink their grape juice and eat their fragment of white bread, He is happy to enter their hearts.

But, we say, we 'know' He is for us in the Sacrament.

As far as I know that's a sketch of the main different.

But you really do have to read this stuff in a picky way. That's how it's written.