Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
Thanks for your kind words. You certainly know me better than all the rest put together.
Bless you for your supportiveness.
Hmmmmm
an interesting perspective I haven’t read before.
THX THX.
THX THX
The recent business of her buying the encylcical and being told she was lying about that is just a recent outrageous case of such. There was no apology at all—just more bluster and outrageous accusation stuff.
Thanks, Q. When they have no rebuttal from Scripture, they call people names. Thankfully, FReepers can see for themselves who said what.
Wherefore should the heathen say, Where is now their God? But our God is in the heavens: he hath done whatsoever he hath pleased. Their idols are silver and gold, the work of men's hands. They have mouths, but they speak not: eyes have they, but they see not: They have ears, but they hear not: noses have they, but they smell not: They have hands, but they handle not: feet have they, but they walk not: neither speak they through their throat. They that make them are like unto them; so is every one that trusteth in them." -- Psalm 115:1-8 "Not unto us, O LORD, not unto us, but unto thy name give glory, for thy mercy, and for thy truth's sake.
INDEED.
THANKS FOR YOUR SCRIPTURAL EMPHASIS.
All else will pass away, His Word will never pass away.
They have no rebuttle from Scripture because Scripture
ranks lower than
!!!!TRADITION!!!!;
than the Pope;
than the magicsterical;
than Mary;
than ritual;
than the catechism;
They may claim otherwise. Their actions and pontifications prove it endlessly.
I think most FourSquare ahoy folks don’t realise they are in a cult as they are simple folks who really want to find God. There are some who rant in multi-colored fonts, but again, they earnestly seek God and are trapped in the FourSquare pent-o-costal cult and we should pity them. For their pasters, I have no pity
Below are the examples
of exalting other deities.
They are real.
They are serious.
They are owned,
operated in,
manifested in,
heart-felt wallowed in
by millions of Roman Catholics around the world.
Pretending otherwise does not change the facts.
White washing it with magicsterical diplospeak
doesn't change the facts.
Rationalizing it with 101 weasel words
doesn't change the facts.
.
.
.
the FACTS are easy enough to see below
for anyone with
more discernment than a gnat's.
.
.
.
Those reading this with any consciousness above comotose
no longer have any excuse.
.
.
.
Holy Spirit will be nudging, urging, forsaking of all such
--ALL HINT OF SUCH--
IGNORING HIS LEADING, NUDGING, URGING
in such matters can be spiritually deadly.
Very spiritually deadly.
.
.
.
ONCE AGAIN,
just a small part of
THE EVIDENCE: .
.
.
Here's the title:
And it carries the official sanctions of:
ni•hil ob•stat
n.
1. Roman Catholic Church An attestation by a church censor that a book contains nothing damaging to faith or morals.
2. Official approval, especially of an artistic work.
WITH RICHARD CARDINAL CUSHING’S IMPRIMATUR
Let me track down the brief portion of quotes upthread . . .
Here they are:
However, as we've seen through a variety of sources--a pile of them in Ferraro's manual about the Rosary--the Roman Catholic et al/Vatican Edifice disagrees with a lot of the claims of RC's hereon to the contrary.
p.32
.
[Quixicated emphases below]
Mary is crowned Queen of heaven and earth, dispenser of all graces . . .
p32
4 - She became Queen of Purgatory, where she exercises her power as mediatrix in behalf of these suffering souls.
5 - She became Queen of us sinners, to assist us through the dangers of this life and to help us in difficulties.
6 - She became the ruler of hell, that trembles at her slightest gaze and is defeated by her power.
"Just as a rock extracted from earth will precipitate into the abyss, so will man, left without Mary's help, quickly slide toward hell." --Richard of St Victor
p37
Sacred Heart of Jesus, Thy kingdom come; Thy kingdom come through Mary! --Partial Indulgence
p41
"Mary is the tree of life to those who grasp her, and he is happy who hold her fast." --Prov. 3:18
p43
1 - "Hail Mary, beloved daughter of the Father, Mother of the Divine Son, Spouse of the Holy Spirit, complement of the most august Trinity!"
p45
6 - To her was granted grace greater than that conferred upon all others, 'that she might vanquish sin in every respect.'
.
[Qx: I guess Christ's vanquishing sin was unnecessary--or ineffectual without Mary's assistance?]
p46
7 - "Mary is the dawn of God because, just as the dawn marks the end of darkness and the beginning of day, so Mary indicates the end of vices and the beginning of virtue."
.
[Qx: I guess Christ's conquering on The Cross and HIS conquering trip to hell were unncessary?]
9 - God loved Mary so much that He gave her the keys to His heart. 'No one can go to God without Mary drawing him.'
.
[Qx: I guess Holy Spirit has been relegated to a 'Walter Mitty' role as spouse of Mary? That's SOME POWER to cancel & take over HOLY SPIRIT'S role to draw men to God!]
p47
4 - "Mary, trusting in the word of the angel, destroyed the sin Eve committed by trusting in the serpent.'
.
[Qx: Evidently, she beat Christ to the job of vanquishing sin!]
5 - "She desired the safety of everyone, went in search of it, and obtained it; it was also through her that this salvation was wrought."
.
[QX: What an unnecessary waste of precious Blood and suffering on THE CROSS!!!/sar]
p47
10 - "As Noah's Ark saved all the animals that entered it, so Mary saves all the souls that entrust themselves to her care."
p50
8 - "If she were not so holy as she is, how could God appoint her to be the ladder of Paradise, the advocate of the world, meatrix between HIm and us?"
p50
4 - "By becoming Mother of God, Mary belongs to the order of hypostatic union; hence she participates IN the infinite sanctity of God."
Oooh. And, all in pretty colors too. RME.
READ the entire discourse —> from post #697. Roamer was the one who did not care to dispute Peter Popoff etc.’s fake “healings”. Did you read post #697?
“All else will pass away, His Word will never pass away.”
AMEN!
“They have no rebuttle from Scripture because Scripture
ranks lower than
!!!!TRADITION!!!!;
than the Pope;
than the magicsterical;
than Mary;
than ritual;
than the catechism;
They may claim otherwise. Their actions and pontifications prove it endlessly.”
Exactly true. We’ve see this every day on the forum. God willing, RCs will see that their veneration of Mary and assorted dead people intrudes upon the glory that is reserved for the Triune God alone.
No small error.
To say as much is a faith statement. But logic and reason have to have a foundation, a first and final premise (cause), in order to operate at all.
Thank you for your testimony, insights and encouragements, dearest sister in Christ!
thanks but I will stick with the religion founded personally by Jesus....that would, of course be Catholicism.So, you don't need a picture to believe Benny Hinn's "healings" -- you just believe that Hinn has "da power"
He takes off his jacket and rubs it over his body and swings it over his head. Sometimes people pass up handkerchiefs, and he lies on top of the pile, rubbing his power onto them.Sheesh, no wonder some folks get conned by Benny or go along with Unitarian Universalists --> they keep denying Christ and Christ's Church. Why do you keep doing that, Iscool?
INDEED. QUITE SO.
Below are the examples
of exalting other deities.
They are real.
They are serious.
They are owned,
operated in,
manifested in,
heart-felt wallowed in
by millions of Roman Catholics around the world.
Pretending otherwise does not change the facts.
White washing it with magicsterical diplospeak
doesn't change the facts.
Rationalizing it with 101 weasel words
doesn't change the facts.
.
.
.
the FACTS are easy enough to see below
for anyone with
more discernment than a gnat's.
.
.
.
Those reading this with any consciousness above comotose
no longer have any excuse.
.
.
.
Holy Spirit will be nudging, urging, forsaking of all such
--ALL HINT OF SUCH--
IGNORING HIS LEADING, NUDGING, URGING
in such matters can be spiritually deadly.
Very spiritually deadly.
.
.
.
ONCE AGAIN,
just a small part of
THE EVIDENCE: .
.
.
Here's the title:
And it carries the official sanctions of:
ni•hil ob•stat
n.
1. Roman Catholic Church An attestation by a church censor that a book contains nothing damaging to faith or morals.
2. Official approval, especially of an artistic work.
WITH RICHARD CARDINAL CUSHING’S IMPRIMATUR
Let me track down the brief portion of quotes upthread . . .
Here they are:
However, as we've seen through a variety of sources--a pile of them in Ferraro's manual about the Rosary--the Roman Catholic et al/Vatican Edifice disagrees with a lot of the claims of RC's hereon to the contrary.
p.32
.
[Quixicated emphases below]
Mary is crowned Queen of heaven and earth, dispenser of all graces . . .
p32
4 - She became Queen of Purgatory, where she exercises her power as mediatrix in behalf of these suffering souls.
5 - She became Queen of us sinners, to assist us through the dangers of this life and to help us in difficulties.
6 - She became the ruler of hell, that trembles at her slightest gaze and is defeated by her power.
"Just as a rock extracted from earth will precipitate into the abyss, so will man, left without Mary's help, quickly slide toward hell." --Richard of St Victor
p37
Sacred Heart of Jesus, Thy kingdom come; Thy kingdom come through Mary! --Partial Indulgence
p41
"Mary is the tree of life to those who grasp her, and he is happy who hold her fast." --Prov. 3:18
p43
1 - "Hail Mary, beloved daughter of the Father, Mother of the Divine Son, Spouse of the Holy Spirit, complement of the most august Trinity!"
p45
6 - To her was granted grace greater than that conferred upon all others, 'that she might vanquish sin in every respect.'
.
[Qx: I guess Christ's vanquishing sin was unnecessary--or ineffectual without Mary's assistance?]
p46
7 - "Mary is the dawn of God because, just as the dawn marks the end of darkness and the beginning of day, so Mary indicates the end of vices and the beginning of virtue."
.
[Qx: I guess Christ's conquering on The Cross and HIS conquering trip to hell were unncessary?]
9 - God loved Mary so much that He gave her the keys to His heart. 'No one can go to God without Mary drawing him.'
.
[Qx: I guess Holy Spirit has been relegated to a 'Walter Mitty' role as spouse of Mary? That's SOME POWER to cancel & take over HOLY SPIRIT'S role to draw men to God!]
p47
4 - "Mary, trusting in the word of the angel, destroyed the sin Eve committed by trusting in the serpent.'
.
[Qx: Evidently, she beat Christ to the job of vanquishing sin!]
5 - "She desired the safety of everyone, went in search of it, and obtained it; it was also through her that this salvation was wrought."
.
[QX: What an unnecessary waste of precious Blood and suffering on THE CROSS!!!/sar]
p47
10 - "As Noah's Ark saved all the animals that entered it, so Mary saves all the souls that entrust themselves to her care."
p50
8 - "If she were not so holy as she is, how could God appoint her to be the ladder of Paradise, the advocate of the world, meatrix between HIm and us?"
p50
4 - "By becoming Mother of God, Mary belongs to the order of hypostatic union; hence she participates IN the infinite sanctity of God."
18(A) "If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you. 19(B) If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own; but because(C) you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.And, since we are in The Church founded by Christ, Christ's One Holy Apostolic Catholic Church, we'll read these verses in context
18(AL) "If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you. 19(AM) If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own; but because(AN) you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. 20Remember the word that I said to you:(AO) 'A servant is not greater than his master.' If they persecuted me,(AP) they will also persecute you.(AQ) If they kept my word, they will also keep yours. 21But(AR) all these things they will do to you(AS) on account of my name,(AT) because they do not know him who sent me. 22If I had not come and spoken to them,(AU) they would not have been guilty of sin,[c] but now they have no excuse for their sin. 23(AV) Whoever hates me hates my Father also. 24(AW) If I had not done among them the works that no one else did,(AX) they would not be guilty of sin, but now they have(AY) seen and hated both me and my Father. 25But(AZ) the word that is written in their Law must be fulfilled:(BA) 'They hated me without a cause.' 26"But(BB) when the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father,(BC) he will bear witness about me. 27And(BD) you also will bear witness,(BE) because you have been with me(BF) from the beginning.
27And(BD) you also will bear witness,(BE) because you have been with me(BF) from the beginning.The Church of Christ, which has been with Him since the beginning, since Apostolic times, has been persecuted by the Romans, the Arian Visigoths and Lombards, threatened with devastation when the Western Roman Empire fell, threatened by Saxons, Magyar, Slavs etc. yet during the first millenium, the fruits are clear --> Celts, IBerians, Franks, Anglo-Saxons, Slavs, Vikings, North Africans, etc converted to Christ. And, the threatening heresies all died.
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