Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
My "tone" is directed at various errors, faiths, practices and beliefs while yours is directed at individuals.
A difference which defines the rules. Learn them. Your posts will be better for them.
Oh, really?
They think He's a fairly good example of suffering so they inflict as much pain as possible on themselves and others in order to become as good and as suffering as Him.
Which Catholic told you that?
lol. No, Judith. My post was not discussing “our Armed Forces.”
My post said what it said, not what you think it said.
Oh, yes, your slightest wish is my command. HAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
ps, do you know what a "bossy" tone is?
That may be, but the comment, Perhaps muslims arent such an enemy of Rome afteraall. Perhaps muslims serve a purpose of Rome by further destroying people and cultures which are not under Romes control
That comment is the same as saying Catholics use Moslems to kill people that the Church does not control.
And that is really over the line. Its one of the most malicious and false things Ive ever read here. It disrespects our armed forces, our men and women serving in the military, those who have been killed by the enemy.
Ohh please Judith is that the best you can do..pick on my typos ? I hunt and peck ...
"These people are waiting to die. What are you telling them to prepare them for death and eternity? She replied candidly, 'We tell them to pray to their Bhagwan, to their gods.'"
Mother Teresa said in another letter: "The damned of hell suffer eternal punishment because they experiment with the loss of God. In my own soul, I feel the terrible pain of this loss. I feel that God does not want me, that God is not God and that he does not really exist."
In her book, Life in the Spirit: Reflections, Meditations and Prayers, sThe six steps to peace taught by Mother Teresa are silence, prayer, faith, love, service, and peace. For anyone who was unsure of what they believed, she suggested starting with small acts of love towards others. She includes three pages of sample prayers and prefaces them by saying that if you are not a Christian you could replace the name Jesus with God. (Page 35). Through the entire book there is never a hint that she relies on Christ alone for her salvation. Rather we read things like, Ive always said we should help a Hindu become a better Hindu, a Muslim become a better Muslim, a Catholic become a better Catholic (Page 31).In 184 pages, there was nothing stating that salvation was through Jesus alone.
"Mother" Teresa was both a pantheist and a Universalist -- Universalists maintain that Muslims, Hindus, Jews, and other non-Christians can get to heaven without saving faith in Christ; they are those who believe that all who sincerely follow their own religions or beliefs will be saved. "Mother" Teresa told Muslims and Jews that they worship the same God that Christians worship.
And you think that those few pages represented the entirety of her relationship with Christ?
How shallow!
I think that Natural Law's comment was directed to the indissoluble unity of the Trinity, while the quote focuses on Christ's human nature. I can't speak for NL, of course, and I don't really want to say any more. Seems to me a good likelihood that most, if not all, of the Christological heresies arise from someone imagining he understands the hypostatic union.
Dr. E, however, might take issue with this:
I know why He was abandoned of God. Do you? No, I cannot comprehend, I cannot at all fathom the depth of what is being revealed to us. Jesus abandoned by His God!
Anyway, she found Chesterton's use of the same formulation "maudlin" and wrong.
Wonderful quote, though!
And cut and paste.
wow. I’ve seen filthy scumbags posts on these threads before, but that pretty much takes the cake. Just when you thought someone hits rock bottom they go out and manage to find a new low. Sick.
Agreed.
Of course, the uncertain route leads through purgatory and additional suffering in its flames before the gates of heaven can be opened. But then, according to "Mother" Teresa, suffering is good. "Mother" Teresa (who herself, it should be noted, had checked into some of the finest and costliest clinics and hospitals in the West during her bouts with heart trouble and old age) once gave this game away in a filmed interview. She described a person who was in the last agonies of cancer and suffering unbearable pain. With a smile, "Mother" Teresa told the camera what she told this terminal patient: "You are suffering like Christ on the cross. So Jesus must be kissing you" (Hitchens, p. 41).
Pope John Paul II used to beat himself with a belt and sleep on a bare floor to bring himself closer to Christ, a book published Wednesday says.
The late pope had a particular belt for self-flagellation and brought it with him to his summer residence, according to the book, "Why he is a Saint: The True story of John Paul II."
In the second millennium, Saint Francis of Assisi, who is known to have received the stigmata, painful wounds like those of Jesus Christ, is said to have asked pardon to his body, whom he called Brother ***, for the severe self-afflicted penances he has done: vigils, fasts, frequent flagellations and the use of a hairshirt.
At the latter half of the 20th century, Saint Josemaría Escrivá practiced self-flagellation and used the cilice, a modern-day version of the hairshirt. Saint Pio of Pietrelcina, a modern-day saint who received the stigmata wrote in one of his letters: "Let us now consider what we must do to ensure that the Holy Spirit may dwell in our souls. It can all be summed up in mortification of the flesh with its vices and concupiscences, and in guarding against a selfish spirit... The mortification must be constant and steady, not intermittent, and it must last for one's whole life. Moreover, the perfect Christian must not be satisfied with a kind of mortification which merely appears to be severe. He must make sure that it hurts." Like St. Josemaria, Padre Pio and Mother Teresa of Calcutta used the cilice and discipline regularly as means of doing penance
So, your source for information on Mother Teresa is Chris Hitchens? Why am I not surprised?
Do you assume that Mother Teresa had the medication on hand to relieve the cancer patient’s pain? Who told you that she refused to give medication when she had it?
As far as ascetic practices go, I doubt you have any understanding at all, whatsoever.
That is so true of some on this thread.
Dr. E., I do believe that many of your posts are also directed at individuals, not just at “various errors, faiths, practices and beliefs”.
Such a post is your #6716 on this thread.
I do believe that many of your posts seem to me to be condescending and-—yes, bossy-—when you are posting to individuals.
I wish it weren’t so.
We? So now you think for Catholics and speak for Protestants. That's pretty impressive. Are you a mentalist, do voices in your head tell you what to say, or is this just tongue in cheek?
I am darned sure that somewhere out there there is a hen pecked husband that does...LOL
As best I can tell this nonsense originated on a site that cannot be linked on FR.
Some seem to think that there is some magic to saying the EXACT PHRASE, "I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior." If this is said publicly a person is saved no matter what they do, if it is never said publicly the person is damned. To them it's a lot like Dorothy saying, "There's no place like home" and clicking her heals to get back to Kansas.
Don't you criticize it when someone says "I know what Catholics think " and so now you criticize when someone says they wonder what Catholics think..
I know what I believed.. I wonder what others raised as catholics believe..
What do you think?
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