Intended Catholic Dictatorship

Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

[metmom]

Nor did I say anything about civility. That’s not what my post addressed and it’s very telling that that is what you interpreted it as.

But your changing the subject is hardly surprising.

[RnMomof7]

Are you prepared to use this same logic to justify abortion? And assuming you aren't, why not?

Wag, the man will always chose what ever their preference is.. and as we see today, the natural man's preference today is all too often SELF.

The question is did God foreknow that the woman would chose the abortion before the child was conceived.. and the answer to that is of course, God is omniscient ..He knows the beginning from the end.. and that sin is figured into the plan of God

[RnMomof7]

I doubt it.

Me too ...LOL

[wagglebee]

The question is did God foreknow that the woman would chose the abortion before the child was conceived.. and the answer to that is of course, God is omniscient ..He knows the beginning from the end.. and that sin is figured into the plan of God

Then is abortion, like other forms of birth control, "relatively unimportant in the scheme of God's plans"?

[wagglebee]

Your hypothetical is based on fallacy,

I know, that was intentional.

[Jaded]

Ah to be in the once saved club.

[RnMomof7]

Then is abortion, like other forms of birth control, "relatively unimportant in the scheme of God's plans"?

it is a sin, and will be judged as one .. is it unimportant to Gods plan? In a sense because he has known for all eternity that the woman would murder her child, but I believe that abortion is a part of Gods judgement on our country (Romans 1) It lessens the value of life and of God's creation .. When we become a society that murders our unborn and kills the sick and old, God then is dismissed as having no relevance in life and death.

[metmom]

You asked me what kind of contraception I used. That is an idiotic, puerile question that might be asked by someone who's not yet reached voting age.

You're being far too generous in your assessment of his maturity level. That kind of question really deserves an answer that would not only get you kicked off the RF, but would likely earn you a time off from FR in general.

The Catholic obsession with sex and the private lives of their membership and even those who aren't members is mind-boggling. What control freaks.

[RnMomof7]

Ah to be in the once saved club.

There is open admissions right now..the entry fee has been paid by Jesus Christ, all that is necessary that you know you are a sinner and and believe he paid your fee and you too can join..:)

[metmom]

I was just about to reply to Mom's post when I noticed yours being spot on. The East most certainly believes in the perpetual dignity and sinless purity of Mary as long as she lived on earth.

The the Bible lied when it states that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God and that there is none that are righteous.

Nobody is without sin. Mary wasn't or she wouldn't have recognized her need for a savior.

[RnMomof7]

The Catholic obsession with sex and the private lives of their membership and even those who aren't members is mind-boggling. What control freaks.

They should worry as much about the clergy

[bronx2]

Everyman/women their own pope: “Nobody is without sin”. You have the unmitigated audacity to write this tripe and exercise faulty interpretative knowledge of scripture when you have ostensibly refused to acknowledge christian friendship thereby disavowing belief in Christianity.

Either you are or are not a christian. Remember well Lk 12:9 and Mt 10:33 before replying.

God have mercy on your soul

[D-fendr]

There is open admissions right now

Ok, I'm back to "you don't believe in double predestination." Correct?

[Natural Law]

"God does indeed open and close the womb. I’ve know people who’ve used various contraceptives and gotten pregnant anyway and people who’ve tried to have a family for years and either never had one or had only one."

Excuse me, but you three takling about sex just made me throw up in my mouth.

[RnMomof7]

Ok, I'm back to "you don't believe in double predestination." Correct?

LOL LOL... ya never give up do ya?

[RnMomof7]

Excuse me, but you three takling about sex just made me throw up in my mouth.

So did you swallow it ???

[metmom]

Everyman/women their own pope:

Considering some of the popes your church has tainting its past....

“Nobody is without sin”. You have the unmitigated audacity to write this tripe and exercise faulty interpretative knowledge of scripture

What faulty interpretative knowledge of Scripture?

How about these verses.....

Romans 3:10 As it is written: "There is no one righteous, not even one;

Romans 3:22-24 22This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.

1 John 1:10 If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives.

Everybody sins. Everybody sinned, even Mary. The only sinless one was Jesus because He did not have a human father to pass the sin nature down to Him.

If the Catholic church is teaching that Mary was without sin, it is teaching something contrary to the truth of Scripture. It is completely unsupportable by Scripture. It is nothing more than a fable fabricated by the Catholic church for God alone knows what reason.

[metmom]

I don’t believe you.

Especially in light of some of the comments to be seen in YOUR posting history.

[metmom]

Poor baby.

Have we offended your delicate sensibilities?

Besides, we’re not talking about sex. You reveal a lot about yourself in the presumptions you make.

[Judith Anne]

Nope. Just abide by the rules and everyone will benefit.

Just abide by the rules yourself.