Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
Good grief, you could write God Himself out of the equation, and it would change nothing about what this book is about.
You can start with the fact that sin did not enter the world through the woman, Eve, ...You deny Holy Writ?
Jer 7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.
Jer 7:19 Do they provoke me to anger? saith the LORD: do they not provoke themselves to the confusion of their own faces?
“BEARING FALSE WITNESS YET AGAIN, I SEE.”
The blind don’t see Quix. Embrace Our Lord. Forswear your heresies. See in the Light.
Do you realize how difficult it was to read that...worse to see this is what they really believe. I say this because of all the threads where this very thing has been debated....you posting this pretty much squelches every arguement any could possibly have or hope to have that somehow, in their utter blindness, they believe this is acceptable to God....quite the contrary and..... Truly astounding to imagine a large part of their faith.
It wasn't until Adam ate of the fruit that the eyes of both of them were opened.
Genesis 3:6-7 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.
Romans 5:12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned—
Romans 5:15-19 But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God's grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many! Again, the gift of God is not like the result of the one man's sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification. For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God's abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ.
Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men. For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.
The sin nature is inherited from the father. Jesus was born sinless not because Mary was sinless, but because God is His father. He inherited the sinless, divine nature of His father, not the sinful human nature of an earthly father.
Good grief, you could write God Himself out of the equation, and it would change nothing about what this book is about.
PRETTY FRIGHTFULLY TRUE.
YUP.
MORE BEARING FALSE WITNESS.
It’s worship, plain and simple.
It goes way beyond honoring someone and recognizing the role they played in an event.
It’s beyond veneration.
That clearly elevates her to godhood.
And Scripture is clear what happens to someone who doesn’t give God the glory....
I can’t imagine Mary being party to that kind of distraction from the glory due to God alone.
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Acts 12:21 On the appointed day Herod, wearing his royal robes, sat on his throne and delivered a public address to the people. 22They shouted, “This is the voice of a god, not of a man.” 23Immediately, because Herod did not give praise to God, an angel of the Lord struck him down, and he was eaten by worms and died.
24But the word of God continued to increase and spread.
I KNOW. IN A VERY REAL SENSE, my spirit, heart, mind
have been grieving for months since reading it. It is sooooo outrageously beyond the worst I expected.
And their seemingly willful blindness about it and defenses of it are even more incredible.
Given over to a delusion seems to be one plausible explanation.
(of Christ Jesus).
Those who embrace these writings would do extremely well to take their own advice right to heart and in every way possible...as soon as possible.
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INDEED TO THE MAX.
No one could imagine this of Mary for those who understand who Christ was and is .... but those who do not could quite easily do so....when Christ is not enthroned in our hearts mankind will and does find a replacement. Clearly that is what these writings do.
I’m not sure about the delusion being the only factor, for obvious that surely plays a great role...my concern is the heart has room for one Savior ONLY...so if this is indeed ones practice then either Christ has been dethroned or He is not there in the first place. He shares His throne with no other...period.
It’s worship, plain and simple.
It goes way beyond honoring someone and recognizing the role they played in an event.
It’s beyond veneration.
That clearly elevates her to godhood.
And Scripture is clear what happens to someone who doesn’t give God the glory....
I can’t imagine Mary being party to that kind of distraction from the glory due to God alone.
ABSOLUTELY INDEED.
I can’t imagine Mary being party to that kind of distraction from the glory due to God alone.
No one could imagine this of Mary for those who understand who Christ was and is .... but those who do not could quite easily do so....when Christ is not enthroned in our hearts mankind will and does find a replacement. Clearly that is what these writings do.
WELL PUT.
THX.
I’m not sure about the delusion being the only factor, for obvious that surely plays a great role...my concern is the heart has room for one Savior ONLY...so if this is indeed ones practice then either Christ has been dethroned or He is not there in the first place. He shares His throne with no other...period.
AMEN! EXTREMELY WELL PUT.
THX.
Just look at the types of responses rendered throughout this never ending thread. The bold, the color schemes and illogical rants and diatribes may well portend troubling problems harbored in the originator. We can only pray for his soul and may God show him mercy.
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