AN INFERENCE
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AN INFERENCE
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AN INFERENCE
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AN INFERENCE!
--FOR ALL OF US--
ROTFLOL!
Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
Love it.
I'm looking at the two posts actually in question. Not what I might think are the intentions of the persons involved based on prior stuff. You know, the actual posting behavior as opposed to "mind reading".
sitetest
MAT 12:49-50: 49And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! 50For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.KJV
Luke 7:28 Informs us as well.
7:28 "I tell you, among those born of women there is no one greater than John; yet the one who is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he."
There are others church’s that follow that dictum. Are you one of many priests who spread the propaganda of the Catholic church here on FR?
How’s that praying to graven images thing working out?
Or praying to others who are not Jesus?
ABSOLUTELY INDEED.
However, that verse seems to have had all the meaning drained out of the words in the
Vatican Rubber Bible . . .
or maybe via the Vatican Daffynitionary.
Poster logs are history; an empty log means clean hands. When hands are dirty, the number of incidents tempered by the nature of the incidents and the “age” of the poster guides the mods - all of us - in determining the appropriate response. That’s not mind reading, that’s modding.
How’s that praying to graven images thing working out?
Well, I don't actually pray TO them. I have kind of a faith issue with painted resins and fiberglass and plaster.
I do pray BEFORE them, from time to time, a not too awful image of our Lady, a ditto image of Thomas Aquinas, and an okay icon of Dominic. It's hard to be an aesthete and a Catholic because one gets the impression that the 'decorators' feel that any old piece of junque will do.
But I'd say it's going fine. And I have a feeling that Therese if Lisieux wants to be my friend, so when I'm done reading some stuff St. Bernard wrote, I think I'll start reading her stuff and talking to her. (I think of it more as "talking" than as "praying.")
Or praying to others who are not Jesus?
Most of my prayers are directed to the Father. Some are to the Holy Spirit. Some of them are requests that the intercession of this or that saint will be heard.
But again, it's going fine. If I didn't come here, I wouldn't be thinking much about "religion" at all. Becoming Catholic has meant I think less about 'religion' and more about Jesus and the Gospel.
Ah ... "equal". Such a troublesome word. "Star differs from star in glory," yet they are all glorious, one way or another, I'd venture to say.
"Equal" and "same" are not, um, equal or same in meaning.
I got mugged for saying this before, but I'll say it again: For us Mary is an eschatological sign. She was made sinless; we will be sinless. She is queen; we will be kings and queens; and so on.
God hears Mary when she prays for me. He hears me when I pray for you. In both cases, the righteousness which leads us to think our prayer is effective ("availing") is not ours but by gift.
Mary is the same kind of thing as we -- a redeemed human being and a beneficiary of great gifts. However I think it's not reasonable to say that all are exactly equal in every respect. If some scoundrel with his dying breath gives His life to God and accepts Jesus as his personal Lord and savior, he is no less 'saved' than Mary, IMHO. But I still would venture to say that Mary, heck, that YOU (both of you) would be a 'greater' saint, than that late repentant person. Yet each can look forward to being "as happy and blessed as he can be."
Okay, got the flack jacket and the helmet. Go ahead.
(But I want to spend some brain effort and some time on a response I owe someone else.)
Love it. You’re a trip.
Now, should I rant some and throw colored text about to help you get your creds back?
No big quibble with most of what you asserted in that post.
I just don’t think all THAT
relates to the other very significantly. LOL.
The Jr God role ascribed to Mary by so many is
FAR DIFFERENT . . . EVEN IN ORDER OF THING . . . THAN
timeliness or wholeheartedness of one’s accepting Christ’s salvation.
I don't speak in unknown tongues...Never have...I'm still trying to master the known tongue...
Appears as tho you are an expert on speaking in tongues...Perhaps you can explain what Paul was talking about when he said this:
1Co 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
I'm thinkin' you're probably the exception to the rule then...
So as a Protestant you had trouble focusing on Jesus and spent all your time on religion, eh???
So if you admit allah is not God then you also admit that your Pope is fallible since it is official doctrine of the Catholic Church that Catholics and muslims worship the same deity.
It’s time to repent and stop following the teachings of fallible men.
Paul is demanding us to exhibit the LOVE of Jesus which appears to be rare commodity for some. If you need an expert on tongues ask the resident expert on UFO’s who might be able to furnish us with a history of interplanetary languages.
Keep Jesus in your heart.
You need to take the time and acquaint yourself with the complete doctrine and its attendant implications instead of uttering flawed comments.
Keep Jesus in your heart
That's a classic example of what human reasoning does for someone
Mat 20:1 For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard. Mat 20:3 And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace,
Mat 20:4 And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you. And they went their way.
Mat 20:5 Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise.
Mat 20:6 And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle?
Mat 20:7 They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive.
Mat 20:8 So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first.
Mat 20:9 And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny.
Mat 20:10 But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny.
Mat 20:11 And when they had received it, they murmured against the goodman of the house,
Mat 20:12 Saying, These last have wrought but one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day.
Mat 20:13 But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny?
Mat 20:14 Take that thine is, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee.
Mat 20:15 Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good
These folks figured the same way you do...But Jesus corrected them...
Excellent example of how human reasoning, making prideful sinful interpretations of the bible, can unwittingly do the work of Satan. Renounce private interpretation which comes not from the Holy Spirit but the father of all lies.
Keep the love of Jesus in your heart.
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