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To: betty boop; kosta50; Alamo-Girl; Quix; 1010RD; MHGinTN; TXnMA; YHAOS; Wallop the Cat; xzins
KOSTA: The universe itself does not say anything about God, so God must come from us. Everything we "know" about God is through man-made words

I suggested before to Kosta that he should have a child. Then he might understand much better that the universe says plenty about God and it sure doesn't come from us.

My husband says it was when he first held his son that he finally understood what God's free grace actually meant. Nothing in his life could have merited or earned the splendid gift of a child.

""Thou hast formed us for Thyself, and our hearts are restless till they find rest in Thee." -- Augustine


"There is not one blade of grass, there is no color in this world that is not intended to make us rejoice." -- John Calvin

BETTY TO KOSTA: Your position seems to be that if you don't "know everything," then you really can't know anything at all (i.e., with reasonable assurance of validity), so why bother? That is an impossible standard, epistemologically speaking.

That does seem to sum up Kosta's view of things which as you've said is a self-defeating exercise in frustration.

I guess it comes down to what we're most comfortable with - doubt or trust.

889 posted on 10/12/2010 11:59:19 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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Best wishes to you all, this horse is dead.


892 posted on 10/12/2010 1:43:15 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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I guess it comes down to what we're most comfortable with — doubt or trust.

I guess that's right, dear sister in Christ!

However, I do note: That which we doubt can have no claim on us.

Our dear kosta seems to be a pretty good psychologist. I wonder whether he has ever truly, deeply contemplated the problem of doubt.

Thank you ever so much for your astute insights!

893 posted on 10/12/2010 3:17:25 PM PDT by betty boop (Seek truth and beauty together; you will never find them apart. — F. M. Cornford)
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