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To: stfassisi; CynicalBear; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; ..

This may end up sounding more convoluted than it is, to me, in my own mental spaces . . . however . . . here goes . . .

1. I offered the business about God could have raised up a virgin daughter of David out of a stray rock to make a point.

A) It’s Biblically accurate to propose such given the Scripture about God raising up rocks to praise Him etc. as children of Abraham even . . .

2. The RC’s seemingly assert that Mary was more or less always destined to be the QUEEN OF HEAVEN and all the other hoopla attached to her inexorably by more or less divine right—seemingly almost before God was.

3. THAT ATTITUDE was what the rock proposal was aimed at. It is a heretical attidued.

4. Mary was a willing servant of God along with thousands of others. Praise God for that. There’s ABSOLUTELY NO BIBLICAL BASIS for elevating her to anything else other than the mother of Christ’s earthly body.

5. Saying a common rock could have been raised up as a virgin daughter of David to do the same task is technically true. All this special hoopla for Mary is simply UnBiblical and unwarranted.

6. PERSONALLY—NO DOCTRINE HERE—JUST MY OPINION—I would not be surprised if as some have postulated, we all discuss with Father—at least Believers to be—[yes, I know, Dr E, sounds awfully predestined!]—meet with Father and layout a rough course for our life before we are born—with our awareness of such stripped from our essence, our consciousness, our understanding.

7. IF THAT’S TRUE, it would not surprise me that the same was true for Mary.

8. IF THAT’S TRUE, Mary would be no more PREDESTINED to any special role than the rest of us are. Certainly Christ’s mother was a unique Role. HOWEVER, HE TRASHED THAT UNIQUENESS WHEN HE NOTED THAT THOSE WHO DID THE FATHER’S WILL WERE AT LEAST EQUALLY HIS BLOOD RELATIVES ALONG WITH HIS BLOOD HALF SISTERS AND BLOOD HALF BROTHERS.

9. No, the cousin rationalization just does NOT WASH. There would have been no point, IN THAT CULTURE of saying cousins—there would have been so many cousins as to have made the point of emphasis the statement was designed to be—pointless. The statement ONLY MAKES SENSE WHEN BLOOD BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF JESUS, CHIDLREN OF MARY ARE MEANT.


735 posted on 09/20/2010 3:39:28 PM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: Quix

I understood and I agree on all points.


736 posted on 09/20/2010 3:44:05 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: Quix

Your views cannot be found in historical “Christian” writings

Some of what you wrote has already been condemned as heretical and some of what you wrote is a modernists view of scripture.


743 posted on 09/20/2010 6:21:06 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: Quix

Quix, KV has been having intense physical issues due to his CP the last few days and this includes breathing issues.

Soon as he saw your ping and started reading he started laughing and smiling and it got his mind off of the thing he was previously over thinking which leads to the CP physical issues.

So his breathing slow to a normal pace and his body is relaxing.

If nothing else the nonsense was medically helpful. Thanks.

I would also like to request (I can’t believe I am requesting this) some multi colored font and a few of your silly pics.

It would be most theraputic and comforting for KV to simmer down by being side tracked in humorous thought.

That would be helping a fellow Christian RCCatholic man.


769 posted on 09/21/2010 5:54:59 AM PDT by Global2010
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